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Old 03-17-2015, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Aah, but the Bible does cover every situation in agape love. The problem is that Satan's spirit tries to mask that and lead people to their own thoughts (or their own words/Book written in their heart). Again what some do to twist the scriptures is far different than what is In the Scriptures. A common mistake, cultivated regularly by Satan.Rejection of the Bible is an indication of a lack of God's spirit. Jesus set the example. He quoted scripture when confronted by Satan, he did not say; I think, the spirit tells me, my spirit tells me, God told me, etc., he quoted ... scripture. I think he knows the situation far better than modern or ancient ignorant man. If someone truly had God's spirit they would see ALL the agaope love in every act of God recorded in scripture, but they are blinded by what THEY think should be what was/is done.
The Spirit did not arrive until after the Ascension. Until then we were under the Law. But Christ promised something other than more scripture to give us strength in our lives.

If the spirit doesn't move you-----just saying.

And if you are unable to see Agape love outside of Scripture, well, just saying.
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Old 03-17-2015, 12:20 PM
 
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The Spirit did not arrive until after the Ascension. Until then we were under the Law. But Christ promised something other than more scripture to give us strength in our lives.

If the spirit doesn't move you-----just saying.

And if you are unable to see Agape love outside of Scripture, well, just saying.
Agape love, or selfless love, is apparent outside of the Scripture AND outside of any religion or God. God is NOT required for one to express selfless love.
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Old 03-17-2015, 12:34 PM
 
Location: USA
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Agape love, or selfless love, is apparent outside of the Scripture AND outside of any religion or God. God is NOT required for one to express selfless love.
Or maybe its just not necessary to be consciously aware of God for God (agape) to operate through you. Its just another way to look at it.
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Old 03-17-2015, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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No, jimmiej, he means that you should be able to tell whether what is moving in you is consistent with and closely related to the concern for the well-being of everyone in any situation that IS agape.
How do you know that's what he means? No, you just made that up. Warden meant to insinuate I am not Spirit-led.
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Old 03-17-2015, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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How do you know that's what he means? No, you just made that up. Warden meant to insinuate I am not Spirit-led.
One of the qualities of love is that it is not provoked, does not assume bad. If that is what Warden intended he will apologize. I think he intended to point out that it is not some big mystery that needs proper doctrine to expose.
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Old 03-17-2015, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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One of the qualities of love is that it is not provoked, does not assume bad. If that is what Warden intended he will apologize. I think he intended to point out that it is not some big mystery that needs proper doctrine to expose.
What is the it you are referring to?
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Old 03-17-2015, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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What is the it you are referring to?
Recognition of the activity of the Spirit in your life.
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Old 03-17-2015, 03:44 PM
 
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Or maybe its just not necessary to be consciously aware of God for God (agape) to operate through you. Its just another way to look at it.
It could just as easily be an alien living on Krypton, of which you are not aware, that operates through you when you go to that length. It's simply a matter of probability. Is it that you God or the alien doesn't work through everyone at his/her/its discretion or is it more likely that some people have more empathy than others, willing to treat others as they should be treated with love and respect?
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Old 03-17-2015, 03:48 PM
 
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Something that's bothered me for a long time on these forums is the concept of agape love. Where is this ever mentioned in scriptures or elsewhere?
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Old 03-17-2015, 03:56 PM
 
Location: USA
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It could just as easily be an alien living on Krypton, of which you are not aware, that operates through you when you go to that length. It's simply a matter of probability. Is it that you God or the alien doesn't work through everyone at his/her/its discretion or is it more likely that some people have more empathy than others, willing to treat others as they should be treated with love and respect?
If the alien IS love, that's fine by me.

Eta: I don't think God operates thru us at God's discretion, but rather at ours.

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