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Old 05-06-2015, 05:41 PM
 
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The Bible specifically states that he hates sinners.
Hmmm. .....since you sin that means God hates YOU Vizio. How do you handle going through life knowing God hates you?
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Old 05-06-2015, 05:44 PM
 
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Hmmm. .....since you sin that means God hates YOU Vizio. How do you handle going through life knowing God hates you?
Since I am saved I am not viewed by God as a sinner, but have been declared righteous according to the blood of Christ. There is no condemnation for those in Christ. If you were to trust Christ as the sacrifice for your sins you could move from being an enemy of God to a friend of God, just like I did.
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Old 05-06-2015, 05:53 PM
 
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No. The word is "hate". If he "loved them less", then it would have said that.
How can any parent hate their child?
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Old 05-06-2015, 06:26 PM
 
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How can any parent hate their child?
You only hate if you are a hater. Not sure how well it went down when P Viz told his folk he hated them, yea i know Jesus did not tell us to tell them we hate them, but i know one thing for certain, we cannot hide what is within us, or the truth is he really does not hate his folk and is disobeying what he thinks Jesus is saying.
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Old 05-06-2015, 06:45 PM
 
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If you were to trust Christ as the sacrifice for your sins you could move from being an enemy of God to a friend of God, just like I did.
Wrong. Again. Still. I'm not an enemy of God. I am a much-loved child of God.

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Old 05-06-2015, 06:47 PM
 
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How can any parent hate their child?
How can any parent teach their child that God hates His children? How can any parent teach their child that God sends people to eternal torment? How can a parent take their child to a church that preaches that? Fundamentalists do it without hesitation and with a truly vomit-inducing gusto.

Fundamentalism is not healthy for children and other living things.

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Old 05-06-2015, 07:19 PM
 
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How can any parent hate their child?
The fact that God used His Son as a sacrifice shows how much He loves the world.

God can't be in the direct presence of anything sinful. Gotta understand that. For Him to have anyone in His presence, the death of His Son was a necessity.
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Old 05-06-2015, 08:08 PM
 
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How can any parent teach their child that God hates His children? How can any parent teach their child that God sends people to eternal torment? How can a parent take their child to a church that preaches that? Fundamentalists do it without hesitation and with a truly vomit-inducing gusto.
Fundamentalism is not healthy for children and other living things.
Amen, Dew!Rep IOU. Those who preach hate for ANY reason are NOT speaking for God, ever!!! They are promoting evil and carry a heavy burden into the next life. We are to preach and display love of God and each other EVERY DAY and repent when we don't, period. ALL else is human vanity and hubris run amok!
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Old 05-06-2015, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Wrong. Again. Still. I'm not an enemy of God. I am a much-loved child of God.
That's because you have trusted Christ.
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Old 05-06-2015, 08:52 PM
 
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That's because you have trusted Christ.
Indeed I have, jimmie.

But being a much-loved child of God is not a "members only" club. He loves each of us more than we are capable of understanding.
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