Why didn't Jesus address homosexuality? (ritual, Kingdom, Israel, salvation)
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Mathew 19: 4 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”
I am a person with same sex attraction but it is doubtful I was born that way. Yet with people of same sex attraction as well as everyone was born as sinners...Only Jesus is the best hope for everyone despite their background.
Science says you're born that way. As to your quote, might want to read the first part of Matthew 19. What do you think Jesus was referring to when he said Eunuchs who are born that way?
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I can't describe when I was in the direction of same sex attraction. Of course as a young child I never had sexual attractions of anyone but of course I thought of guys being good looking but the thought of homosexual activities was alien to me. All this changed when I accidently stumbled on porn when I was around 8 or 9 years old and from there I was more excited on the men there.
As a same sex attracted man I will even commit sin if I look lustfully at a pornographic image or at another man. For straights it is looking lustfully at someone of the opposite sex.
Of course being gay and being active homosexual (even if looking lustfully at someone of the same sex) are 2 different things. One is not a sin and the other is. I used to be an active homosexual and it is due to the sin in my life. Romans 1:24
I'm truly sorry that you are repressing your sexuality because of myths first perpetuated by a bunch of superstitious wandering desert goat herders. An uneducated, ignorant of science, bunch of goat herders.
Do you really think any god you can envision would cause you to have a same sex attraction and not act on it?
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So you want to ban the truth? People like you want to twist, contort and inject extra meanings into scripture that is very clear. Homosexuality is a sin. One only has to look at the physical bodies of both sexes and clearly see that God designed the different sexes to interact perfectly together on an emotional and sexual basis.
Let me ask you a simple question. If everyone in society were heterosexual, would the HIV rate be as high as it is today? Yes or No.
Yeah, your god sure screwed up when he put the entertainment section right next to the sewage plant, didn't he?
The guy must have had a sick sense of humor.
But then, aren't monkeys 'designed' the same way? Go figure.
Yeah, your god sure screwed up when he put the entertainment section right next to the sewage plant, didn't he?
The guy must have had a sick sense of humor.
But then, aren't monkeys 'designed' the same way? Go figure.
Disgusting reference, but completely wrong anyways. That's like saying ear lobes are a sexual design. No, they just have sensitive nerve endings like other parts of the body. And some parts are clearly created for the purpose of physical bonding.
I'm truly sorry that you are repressing your sexuality because of myths first perpetuated by a bunch of superstitious wandering desert goat herders. An uneducated, ignorant of science, bunch of goat herders.
Do you really think any god you can envision would cause you to have a same sex attraction and not act on it?
And once again, you demonstrate your extreme bias against Christianity by degrading the Biblical authors as "ignorant goat herders". Well those ignorant goat herders managed to get many points of science correctly like "life is in the blood", laws to fight against diseases and accurately describing in detail the complex machinations of adjacent societies like Egypt and Babylonian. How did an ignorant goat herder find out about all that? The story of Joseph has a lot of accurate details about Pharaoh and his courts, for example.
It's easy to right off ancient people as stupid and ignorant compared to our modern society, but I believe they were highly intelligent and accomplished some amazing feats given the limited resources. The Qanat is one such example. It required a high level of engineering and geology knowledge and has been used since ancient times.
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Disgusting reference, but completely wrong anyways. That's like saying ear lobes are a sexual design. No, they just have sensitive nerve endings like other parts of the body. And some parts are clearly created for the purpose of physical bonding.
Yes, the part that is clearly created for physical bonding is the brain, your psyche, your intuition.
For most of us, we are attracted to opposite sex mates.
Mathew 19: 4 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”
I am a person with same sex attraction but it is doubtful I was born that way. Yet with people of same sex attraction as well as everyone was born as sinners...Only Jesus is the best hope for everyone despite their background.
It looks like you are conflating gender identity with sexual orientation. Gender is how you identify (male or female), the inner perception of being male or female, and sexual orientation is who you are attracted to (men, women or both).
If your same sex attraction is something that is doubtful you were born with then heterosexuality is so feeble and mutable too.
Truth is sexual orientation is a fixed trait that cannot be changed because of external factors. In fact, it has been observed that the brains of homosexual people and heterosexual people are slightly different. Your brain reacts differently when you see or interact with a person of the same sex that you might find attractive either sexually or romatically than it does for a heterosexual person.
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And once again, you demonstrate your extreme bias against Christianity by degrading the Biblical authors as "ignorant goat herders". Well those ignorant goat herders managed to get many points of science correctly like "life is in the blood", laws to fight against diseases and accurately describing in detail the complex machinations of adjacent societies like Egypt and Babylonian. How did an ignorant goat herder find out about all that? The story of Joseph has a lot of accurate details about Pharaoh and his courts, for example.
Naaa..... I think all of the religions are pretty wacky and out there. Jewish, Muslim, Christian, Aztec, North American Indian, Scientology, Hindu, Nordic etc. I might give some elements of Buddhism a pass, those that do not look at an external deity.
Just because bible stories got some things right, does not mean all of it is. I noticed you have made little or no comments on the thread on Nephilim. Now talk about an out there part of your bible myths. Angels coming down, having orgies with the women they find appealing, and pop, out comes giants. Think of the poor women who had to bear those big babies, and the pain and suffering they had to go through giving birth. I wonder how many died in child birth? Who took care of the orphans? Were the women blackballed by the rest of the community.
And once again, you demonstrate your extreme bias against Christianity by degrading the Biblical authors as "ignorant goat herders". Well those ignorant goat herders managed to get many points of science correctly like "life is in the blood", laws to fight against diseases and accurately describing in detail the complex machinations of adjacent societies like Egypt and Babylonian. How did an ignorant goat herder find out about all that? The story of Joseph has a lot of accurate details about Pharaoh and his courts, for example.
It's easy to right off ancient people as stupid and ignorant compared to our modern society, but I believe they were highly intelligent and accomplished some amazing feats given the limited resources. The Qanat is one such example. It required a high level of engineering and geology knowledge and has been used since ancient times.
What I dont get, is how some on here can say any nasty thing they want about Christians and Christianity and call them all sorts of names, sling insults and NOTHING happens to them, but if we Christians go onto the Current Events or other sections of City Data and speak against Homosexuality, we receive infractions about trolling.
Jesus said we would be persecuted for following him ,so I guess its no different here either.
2 Timothy 3:12-15(NKJV)
12 Yes, and all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution. 13 But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived. 14 But you must continue in the things which you have learned and been assured of, knowing from whom you have learned them, 15 and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
So you want to ban the truth? People like you want to twist, contort and inject extra meanings into scripture that is very clear. Homosexuality is a sin. One only has to look at the physical bodies of both sexes and clearly see that God designed the different sexes to interact perfectly together on an emotional and sexual basis.
Let me ask you a simple question. If everyone in society were heterosexual, would the HIV rate be as high as it is today? Yes or No.
Christian fundamentalists "twist and contort" the Bible to fit what they want. How else do you explain the ignoring of all the silly rules in Leviticus, other then the verses that supposedly command death to gay people?
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