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Old 10-12-2015, 05:11 PM
 
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Well, you claimed the Bible said that sexual immorality destroyed nations. Which ones?
Care to explain to me why this question is so important and relevant? The verse doesn't specify which nations. It would be the early Canaanite groups and what we do know is they were all wiped out.
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Old 10-12-2015, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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They may be able to develop some type of emotional connection, but certainly not physically without taking health risks. If we are going to be honest here then promiscuity has long been associated with gays so how can you maintain a close emotional bond when you are out there sharing your body all over the place?


Here is the thing I find quite interesting. Any recent study regarding homosexuality nowadays is extremely supportive of them. A decade ago, it was quite different. I can't find a single recent study regarding promiscuity. You know why? Because the evidence is so clear that they don't want people to know that legalized SSM hasn't led to monogamy and less risky behavior. That's denying the truth.



Well if you recommend it, I certainly won't read it.




We have no desire to treat them differently. We just don't want to have to participate in their sinful lifestyle on any level even if that involves something like baking a wedding cake or signing consent to marriage license.
You continue to be disingenuous that the world not only has changed, but continues to change despite your attempt to keep it set in 1515.

So what if homosexual sex is fraught with personal risks? Are you out there warning people about bungee jumping, or skydiving, or even playing football? There is personal risk in many things--we don't say it is sin even though it may be foolish.

Mel White and his partner (perhaps husband now) have been together--faithfully according to Mel--for over 25 years. Or how about Jim Nabors and his partner--38 years of loyalty---that beats a lot of heterosexual marriages. Several homosexuals have been on these threads and have mentioned their own faithfulness for many years.

Your necessity to keep bringing up homosexual promiscuity is, I believe, because you are trying to keep your own desires in check. Guess what--use a condom. In the world, as I have provided factual information to you before, there are as many women as men with HIV. The split is 50-50 because of the older continent of Africa from which it arose has steadfastly refused to use condoms. Some estimates are that 15% of the population in some nations has HIV. Why not in the U.S.? Is your "godly" influence preventing sex from happening in the U.S.?
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About 70 percent of the HIV-positive population lives in sub-Saharan Africa, which accounts for the same share of new transmissions.
This Chart Shows Why HIV Is Still Spreading in the U.S. - Bloomberg Business

And I'm sure you won't read Mel White's biography. You lie constantly about "loving" them in the name of Jesus, but refuse any opportunity to educate yourself about them. That is the mark of a fool. Even if you don't agree with them--and BECAUSE you claim homosexuality is a sin--you should know more about them than any person on this thread. That is what an honest person who claims they "love" homosexuals in the name of Jesus while wholeheartedly condemning them to hell would do.

Here is my prediction--HIV will continue to fall in the U.S. for a couple of reasons. Of course, the education is helpful in this country, but now that homosexuals can marry, committed relationships don't have to be "in the closet" because of fundamentalist efforts to destabilize family life for them. Second, it continues to fall as a percentage of the population because the number of people being affected remains about 50,000 nationwide every year for the past decade in spite of population growth. (same source as above). The promiscuity of heterosexual people has risen dramatically since the 1960's. The trend among homosexuals should now be downward.
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Last week one of the world's largest dating websites, OkCupid, collated and published the results of their user "match" questions, which are designed to find out as much as they can about their 4 million members in order to help them find dates. The statistics are startling.

There is only a one percentage point difference between heterosexuals and homosexuals in their promiscuity: 98% of gay people have had 20 or fewer sexual partners; 99% of straight people have had the same number.

Tellingly, OkCupid found that it is just 2% of gay people that are having 23% of the total reported gay sex.
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And here is where these online statistics get even more interesting. Gay people, apparently, don't even want sex with straight people. Just 0.6% of gay men on the site, for example, have ever searched for straight "matches". And just 0.1% of lesbians have. The theoretical idea of the heterosexual male might be appealing for gay men – a tryst with Brad Pitt or George Clooney, perhaps – but in practice we are making no efforts to turn the theory into a reality. There wasn't even one single gay user of the website who predominantly searched for straight users. Not one. Straight men of the world, you are safe.
So you think gay men are promiscuous? | Patrick Strudwick | Comment is free | The Guardian

Jesus DID address the kind of sin you are involved in --but you prefer to concentrate on six controversial, interpretive driven biblical verses about THEM instead of working to get your own life right with God.

Just accept yourself and practice safe sex--or continue to beat yourself up like other99. It's an unhappy existence, but then most fundamentalists are desirous of making everyone else just as unhappy as they themselves are---because they haven't found the peace that passes all understanding.

Quit with the Matt Slick approach to life.
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Old 10-12-2015, 05:53 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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Care to explain to me why this question is so important and relevant? The verse doesn't specify which nations. It would be the early Canaanite groups and what we do know is they were all wiped out.
Because you brought it up, and I don't recall anything being taught in History class about a country being destroyed because they were sexually immoral. Had that happened, I would think history would have recorded it.
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Old 10-12-2015, 07:32 PM
 
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Spot on as usual, Warden. A quick check of the carm website reveals the source of all of Jeff's arguments: the aptly- named Slick. Right down to long lists of STD statistics.

All Jeff has done is parrot back Slickersterisms. Hundreds of posts that are nothing but info pulled from the carm site...with no attribution. In the academic world that's called plagiarism. In Straight Outta Carmton that's called Adoration of the Guru.

Time to think for yourself, Jeff. Your brain will rot if you continue to let Slick think for you.
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Old 10-12-2015, 07:57 PM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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Because you think so? Meanwhile in the real world, homosexual activity spreads STDS like wildfire.
Tell us how HIV is spread in Africa.
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Old 10-12-2015, 08:56 PM
 
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Tell us how HIV is spread in Africa.
I'm sure the poor healthcare system and sanitary conditions have a lot to do with it.
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Old 10-12-2015, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Thank you, jeff.

Thank you for continuing to expose the dank, fetid truth that underlies religious fundamentalism.

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Old 10-12-2015, 09:00 PM
 
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Spot on as usual, Warden. A quick check of the carm website reveals the source of all of Jeff's arguments: the aptly- named Slick. Right down to long lists of STD statistics.

All Jeff has done is parrot back Slickersterisms. Hundreds of posts that are nothing but info pulled from the carm site...with no attribution. In the academic world that's called plagiarism. In Straight Outta Carmton that's called Adoration of the Guru.

Time to think for yourself, Jeff. Your brain will rot if you continue to let Slick think for you.
Right cuz a survey from Okcupid, an online dating site is the most reliable source of data huh? You really have some big beef with this CARM guy yet you haven't provided a single credible bit of evidence as to why he is so false in his positions.
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Old 10-12-2015, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Right cuz a survey from Okcupid, an online dating site is the most reliable source of data huh? You really have some big beef with this CARM guy yet you haven't provided a single credible bit of evidence as to why he is so false in his positions.
Actually, many have over the past couple of years.

Truth is CARM's enemy - as it is yours.
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Old 10-12-2015, 09:01 PM
 
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Thank you, jeff.

Thank you for continuing to expose the dank, fetid truth that underlies religious fundamentalism.


Thank you for continuing to prove that the Bible is true and the word of God:



"Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed." John 3:20
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