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Old 01-05-2016, 07:07 PM
 
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Does obedience to the law of God save us or not?
Not in the least.
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Old 01-05-2016, 07:10 PM
 
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Not in the least.
Why do you call me lord lord?
Repentence is an action not a faith .
Two necessary and separate things.
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Old 01-05-2016, 07:20 PM
 
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To whom did Jesus pray ? Himself?
Where it is expected to have a satisfactory explanation for skeptics other than what has been revealed by the Holy Spirit in scriptures for it to be the truth?

A: it doesn't.

Therefore those with the Spirit accept things that come from the Spirit.

So despite the fact that it is beyond reasoning ... Jesus is God.
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Old 01-05-2016, 07:24 PM
 
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Where it is expected to have a satisfactory explanation for skeptics other than what has been revealed by the Holy Spirit in scriptures for it to be the truth?

A: it doesn't.

Therefore those with the Spirit accept things that come from the Spirit.
So Jesus is not the Son of God?
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Old 01-05-2016, 07:32 PM
 
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So Jesus is not the Son of God?
So .... read other OP's where it is shown as the truth but never claimed to be something understandable.
https://www.city-data.com/forum/chris...s-trinity.html

Jesus is true God and at the same time true human.

Colossians 2:9

For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form,
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Old 01-05-2016, 07:38 PM
 
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So .... read other OP's where it is shown as the truth but never claimed to be something understandable.


Jesus is true God and at the same time true human.
Tho he was God's Son yet he learned Obedience thru the things he suffered.

Calling him God is your cupout because you yourself do not want obedience in your religion.
The fact is he was tempted like you and me yet he stayed loyal to his father earning the crown and title king of kings.
His obedience in life gave him power in death. Thru his obedience to God was the forgiveness thru his blood made possible.
To not just his death but ALSO his LIFE
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Old 01-05-2016, 07:46 PM
 
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Foolish to think Satan could tempt God.
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Old 01-05-2016, 08:46 PM
 
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So Jesus is not the Son of God?
Well, you know the Ripley's Book?...The Big Red One that has everything that Ripley had collected?...Well, in this there was a page where a man goes through, it seems, all the intermarrying that went on in his family and concludes that he is his own father...Oh, just remembered, I think it was a suicide note...
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Old 01-06-2016, 04:44 AM
 
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Repentence is an action not a faith .
This is an error in theology. The definition is "change of mind".
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Old 01-06-2016, 05:00 AM
 
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Does obedience to the law of God save us or not?
No.

God's grace means... well, my pastor explained it like this. There are 612 Jewish laws. Plus the US legal system. There is no way you can keep these laws. There are 10 commandments. You're unlikely even to keep these, due to way they are set up.

But the law of the Jews is basically set up to maintain basic order. If you rely on it you fail. You will be okay though, if you realize you are loved by Jesus. Not to say you abandon the law, but to trust outside yourself.
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