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Old 06-08-2016, 02:15 PM
 
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How did he himself walk?...
Depends on who you ask. If you are a Pharisee then Jesus was an OG (Original Gangster) style Apostate. Yes, that's right...Apostates should get consideration for the Jesus draft.
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Old 06-08-2016, 02:16 PM
 
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What did G-d say?...
I'll repeat it one more time, and after that you can police other people all day long. I won't repeat it again.

"On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets"

It is so much less complicated than you think.

Just FYI, Jesus was in constant disagreement with people like you.
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Old 06-08-2016, 02:17 PM
 
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As I suspected it would...Start off with comparing the Hebrew Scriptures to the Christian edited Old Testament...Ask yourself why the same verses say something different in the Hebrew Scriptures than they do in the COT...Ask yourself why are there verses in the COT that are not in the Hebrew Scriptures...Ask yourself why there are verses found in the COT That are not in the Hebrew Scriptures...Ask yourself why the Christian version of the Mashiach is not the same Mashiach that G-d instructed the Jews to expect...It's very simple if you do the research...Don't be lazy and allow someone else to give you the answers...Go find them yourself...

Where exactly did I pose you any question in this thread? Are you okay man?..
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Old 06-08-2016, 02:18 PM
 
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So if Christians decided to Keep the Sabbath as a day of rest and do no work, keep the Biblical Feast Days instead of the man made days of XMas, Easter, St(Insert name day), etc, and follow the dietary laws....Would that be considered following in the path of Jesus then?
First, Jesus fulfiled the Constitution of the Mosaic Law - Romans 10:4
So, genuine ' wheat ' Christians do Not keep the old Mosaic Law Sabbath keeping or dietary law system.
Also, since 1st-century Christians did Not keep Xmas/Easter, etc. nor would genuine ' wheat ' Christians.
Since Jesus commissioned his followers to do the same as he did - Luke 4:43 - then genuine ' wheat ' Christians would follow, so to speak, in his footsteps - Matthew 24:14; Acts 1:8 - but just on a grander international or global scale to proclaim God's coming kingdom government as the solution to mankind's problems - Daniel 2:44; 7:13-14; Psalm 72:8,12-14
Jesus gave a NEW commandment as a hallmark or identifying mark of genuine followers at John 13:34-35
They would have the same self-sacrificing love for others as Jesus had.
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Old 06-08-2016, 02:20 PM
 
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How did he himself walk?...
He was a Torah observant Hebrew, who upheld the commands of his father and taught them as well, but the US society has been more shaped around the ways of the Catholic Church and their traditions, so it probably wont change any time soon or until the Messiah returns.
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Old 06-08-2016, 02:25 PM
 
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First, Jesus fulfiled the Constitution of the Mosaic Law - Romans 10:4
So, genuine ' wheat ' Christians do Not keep the old Mosaic Law Sabbath keeping or dietary law system.
Also, since 1st-century Christians did Not keep Xmas/Easter, etc. nor would genuine ' wheat ' Christians.
Since Jesus commissioned his followers to do the same as he did - Luke 4:43 - then genuine ' wheat ' Christians would follow, so to speak, in his footsteps - Matthew 24:14; Acts 1:8 - but just on a grander international or global scale.
Jesus gave a NEW commandment as a hallmark or identifying mark of genuine followers at John 13:34-35
They would have the same self-sacrificing love for others as Jesus had.
Romans 10:4
4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

It is saying our righteousness comes through Christ, but its not saying all the commands of the father were abolished.


Jesus just repeated the same commandment from Lev 19:18 & Deut 6:5 to Love God and One another and expounded on it more, so its not really new.


But I do think its silly for some to state that the Torah must be fully up help still, when 1/3 of it requires animals sacrifices.
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Old 06-08-2016, 02:35 PM
 
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He was a Torah observant Hebrew, who upheld the commands of his father and taught them as well, but the US society has been more shaped around the ways of the Catholic Church and their traditions, so it probably wont change any time soon or until the Messiah returns.
So, if he showed that example then why are folks dancing to their own tunes claiming to walk in his footsteps?...


Jesus was a Rabbi...Plain and simple...Compare what G-d's description of the Mashiach is with what Christianity claims...You'll see a big difference...Only one can be accurate...
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Old 06-08-2016, 02:42 PM
 
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Jesus was a Rabbi...Plain and simple...Compare what G-d's description of the Mashiach is with what Christianity claims...You'll see a big difference...Only one can be accurate...
Calling Jesus a Rabbi reminded me of 1st Peter Townsend when he said:

If I told you what it takes
To reach the highest high,
You'd laugh and say 'nothing's that simple'
But you've been told many times before
Messiahs pointed to the door
And no one had the guts to leave the temple!


I have no idea what's going on.
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Old 06-08-2016, 02:45 PM
 
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Romans 10:4
4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
Or by following his examples...

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It is saying our righteousness comes through Christ, but its not saying all the commands of the father were abolished.
Or that righteousness comes through following his example and walking as he walked...

No one can die for the sins of another, but each one shall die for their own sins.

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Jesus just repeated the same commandment from Lev 19:18 & Deut 6:5 to Love God and One another and expounded on it more, so its not really new.
Correct...Whoever wrote that claimed it to be a new commandment, which shows how ignorant they were of the Hebrew Scriptures...

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But I do think its silly for some to state that the Torah must be fully up help still, when 1/3 of it requires animals sacrifices.
No animal sacrifices since there is no Temple in Jerusalem...And a portion of the 613 commandments are meant specifically for the Priests and do not pertain to the Israelites...
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Old 06-08-2016, 02:47 PM
 
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He was a Torah observant Hebrew, who upheld the commands of his father and taught them as well, but the US society has been more shaped around the ways of the Catholic Church and their traditions, so it probably wont change any time soon or until the Messiah returns.
A Torah observant Jew...
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