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Sounds like the stuff the hippies spouted in the 60s....
Funny you should being that up.
Post 351 is just one example, no doubt unintentional and I am NOT comparing anything but ideology for the purposes of discussion, of the stuff Charlie Manson spouted in the 60's. Manson was definitely NOT a hippie. He was a guy who knew how to use religious* mumbo jumbo.
*Mostly Biblical. With a side of Scientology if he thought it could help him control people. It's scary how often I think of Manson when I see his beliefs on these threads. By people with a variety of beliefs on the Judeo-Christian spectrum who probably have no idea what Manson believed and preached. And by people who, obviously, are not evil mass-murderers.
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Gosh, my Bible says Jesus promised the comforter to be with us forever. Is your authority contradicting itself?
Those converts to Judaism who received the promised rain of the spring were killed off, does the promise then transfer to other religions because all the first followers were killed off?
Would you have me believe that the Holy ghost was carried through the people who killed anyone who kept the Pentecost, and that the spirit was handed down from hand to hand until it has reached you and millions of others?
Having the Holy spirit and it's gifts was a small local thing where there were tens of thousands of believers and now there are tens of millions of believers and not one person among those millions have any gift of the Holy spirit when it should be just opposite. If there were tens of thousands before and now there are tens of millions, then why can't we even name one person who actually has the spirit of Pentecost?
We can't name a single person amongst tens of millions because not one person can do the works that those first converts of Judaism did when they had the Holy spirit.
Again, the covenant was broken, gentiles left the covenant, they not only abandoned Judah and anyone who would keep the feasts of Pentecost, but they set into killing anyone who would keep the Pentecost, and again, why would somebody who hates and shuns the Pentecost claim to have the spirit of Pentecost when it is not a debate?
Can you name even one person who can do what those first 100 did?
NO.
But we have a greater promise than just the promise of Pentecost, we have the promise of Shemini Atzeret, and if a person has obtained this reward, it is double what the first had.
The Pine Siskins sing the song of sparrows and they look just like sparrows but are Pine Siskins really sparrows?
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Would you have me believe that the Holy ghost was carried through the people who killed anyone who kept the Pentecost, and that the spirit was handed down from hand to hand until it has reached you and millions of others?
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No, I would have you re-evaluate your information.
With all due respect to folks that practice Judaism, the coming of Our Lord Jesus Christ has ensured the oneness of all of humanity. The Jews were first to have the knowledge of God, but now all humanity now have that knowledge. If it had been otherwise, would God not be seen as partial?
What this means is that no religion or world view is superior, no. The main thing is for all of us to love one another and to love God. Love is key. Without love, we are empty-hollow. An atheist that has love is closer to God than a priest of a synagogue or a pastor without love.
One thing we all should know is that the current Jerusalem under dispute cannot be of any significant spiritual significance. There is a new Jerusalem, which is different, which is the new center of power. That is where the Godhead manifested to rule over all flesh.
Christ himself confirmed this when he said that "kingdom of God will be taken from you and given to a nation that will bear its fruit".
We should pray to God to reveal to us this New Jerusalem. Jerusalem means the city of the King, the stark opposite of Babylon, the city of lust and vain glorifications.
With all due respect to folks that practice Judaism, the coming of Our Lord Jesus Christ has ensured the oneness of all of humanity. The Jews were first to have the knowledge of God, but now all humanity now have that knowledge. If it had been otherwise, would God not be seen as partial?
What this means is that no religion or world view is superior, no. The main thing is for all of us to love one another and to love God. Love is key. Without love, we are empty-hollow. An atheist that has love is closer to God than a priest of a synagogue or a pastor without love.
One thing we all should know is that the current Jerusalem under dispute cannot be of any significant spiritual significance. There is a new Jerusalem, which is different, which is the new center of power. That is where the Godhead manifested to rule over all flesh.
Christ himself confirmed this when he said that "kingdom of God will be taken from you and given to a nation that will bear its fruit".
We should pray to God to reveal to us this New Jerusalem. Jerusalem means the city of the King, the stark opposite of Babylon, the city of lust and vain glorifications.
If I get on my LT, I'll respond to this...It's to difficult on my cell...You've presented some good material here for discussion....
Post 351 is just one example, no doubt unintentional and I am NOT comparing anything but ideology for the purposes of discussion, of the stuff Charlie Manson spouted in the 60's. Manson was definitely NOT a hippie. He was a guy who knew how to use religious* mumbo jumbo.
*Mostly Biblical. With a side of Scientology if he thought it could help him control people. It's scary how often I think of Manson when I see his beliefs on these threads. By people with a variety of beliefs on the Judeo-Christian spectrum who probably have no idea what Manson believed and preached. And by people who, obviously, are not evil mass-murderers.
Since I made post 351, which is about dying to self, same thing Yeshua spoke of when He said to pick up your cross and follow Him, perhaps you'd care to elaborate on how that in ANY WAY correlates to Charles Manson, anywhere but in your own mind? Oh, I know, it doesn't......
Just more of the same smokescreen, that if you don't understand the message and can't tear it down, then go after the messenger with lies and misinformation.. Peace
With all due respect to folks that practice Judaism, the coming of Our Lord Jesus Christ has ensured the oneness of all of humanity. The Jews were first to have the knowledge of God, but now all humanity now have that knowledge. If it had been otherwise, would God not be seen as partial?
What this means is that no religion or world view is superior, no. The main thing is for all of us to love one another and to love God. Love is key. Without love, we are empty-hollow. An atheist that has love is closer to God than a priest of a synagogue or a pastor without love.
One thing we all should know is that the current Jerusalem under dispute cannot be of any significant spiritual significance. There is a new Jerusalem, which is different, which is the new center of power. That is where the Godhead manifested to rule over all flesh.
Christ himself confirmed this when he said that "kingdom of God will be taken from you and given to a nation that will bear its fruit".
We should pray to God to reveal to us this New Jerusalem. Jerusalem means the city of the King, the stark opposite of Babylon, the city of lust and vain glorifications.
Christianity was a legal sect of Judaism for over 100 years, gentiles converted to Judaism. Gentiles continued going to synagogue with Jews until it became a problem and the problem was obvious. If the whole world continued to become Christian and then to make pilgrimages to Jerusalem to keep the ways of God, it would not be long before the law would go out from Jerusalem to the whole world and it would be the Capitol city of the world and Rome could not have this especially after the Jewish war.
Roman records and Jewish records say that the Jews wanted the gentile converts out and Rome needed to separate them.
Then the great synagogue caught fire and this was pinned on the gentile converts because it was seen as a clear way to finally separate the gentile converts from the Jews and what they practiced.
A deal was struck in Hadrians day that the Greek Orthodox would accept the Saturnalia and keep the religion in Rome. Now it was Christian against Christian. Hadrian expelled the Jews from Rome and took over their synagogues and every Gentile convert along with them.
Laws were put in place so the gentile would not go back to keeping the feasts of Christ.
Christianity became something else, but Jesus didn't come teaching a new religion, he came validating his own religion until Gentiles broke the covenant and left the worship system of God.
Jesus brought a new covenant for Ephraim and Judah and nobody else, if you are not one of these, you don't have a covenant and Ephraim only has a covenant through his return as Ephraim must.
Just exactly as the first Israel{The ten tribes} had done, so too did Christianity and what was the outcome when the ten tribes appointed their own holy city, creating their own holy days apart from God?
They became known as the ten lost tribes.
Those ten lost tribes have a promise that Messiah would come and redeem them through a betrothal and so John went out as the friend of the bridegroom to the land of Joseph, to the gentiles who sat in darkness to redeem gentiles through a redeeming marriage and they become one with Jews and have the same Holy city in common with the same Sabbaths and feasts in common.
Not any more.
Gentiles left the covenant and now they are someplace other than Judaism.
The Pine Siskins are amongst the sparrow but the sparrow Hawk knows the difference.
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Christianity was a legal sect of Judaism for over 100 years, gentiles converted to Judaism. Gentiles continued going to synagogue with Jews until it became a problem and the problem was obvious. If the whole world continued to become Christian and then to make pilgrimages to Jerusalem to keep the ways of God, it would not be long before the law would go out from Jerusalem to the whole world and it would be the Capitol city of the world and Rome could not have this especially after the Jewish war.
Roman records and Jewish records say that the Jews wanted the gentile converts out and Rome needed to separate them.
Then the great synagogue caught fire and this was pinned on the gentile converts because it was seen as a clear way to finally separate the gentile converts from the Jews and what they practiced.
A deal was struck in Hadrians day that the Greek Orthodox would accept the Saturnalia and keep the religion in Rome. Now it was Christian against Christian. Hadrian expelled the Jews from Rome and took over their synagogues and every Gentile convert along with them.
Laws were put in place so the gentile would not go back to keeping the feasts of Christ.
Christianity became something else, but Jesus didn't come teaching a new religion, he came validating his own religion until Gentiles broke the covenant and left the worship system of God.
Jesus brought a new covenant for Ephraim and Judah and nobody else, if you are not one of these, you don't have a covenant and Ephraim only has a covenant through his return as Ephraim must.
Just exactly as the first Israel{The ten tribes} had done, so too did Christianity and what was the outcome when the ten tribes appointed their own holy city, creating their own holy days apart from God?
They became known as the ten lost tribes.
Those ten lost tribes have a promise that Messiah would come and redeem them through a betrothal and so John went out as the friend of the bridegroom to the land of Joseph, to the gentiles who sat in darkness to redeem gentiles through a redeeming marriage and they become one with Jews and have the same Holy city in common with the same Sabbaths and feasts in common.
Not any more.
Gentiles left the covenant and now they are someplace other than Judaism.
It's true. And just like the Jews that didn't hear at the time of the eon change, so too most of the Christians are not hearing now. Nearly 2000 years of paganism has deep roots. May He have mercy on us all. Peace
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