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Old 08-30-2016, 02:39 PM
 
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No, the principle you don't see is, that all trees (men are described as trees elsewhere) bear fruit in their own season. Those selected to be closest to Him, were 'in season" and as they showed, bore fruit.

Not understanding the parables doesn't mean they were not going to be forgiven their sins. As Hannibal and others have expressed, there are levels to the kingdom of G-d and not all are going to be in His "inner circle", and knowing their hearts and knowing the end from the beginning, He spoke in parables IN MERCY, because you are held accountable for what you know. If they had "got it" and refused to walk in it, their judgment would have been greater.

And so you see instructions in there, to let him who is filthy be filthy still, because at a certain point, it is more merciful for them to stay blind, that it is for them to see and fail. His motives are ALWAYS PURE AND RIGHTEOUS AND FULL OF MERCY, no matter what it may APPEAR to the contrary.

But it takes the mind of the Spirit to reveal these things, carnally minded men approaching a SPIRITUAL book, will never see the treasures hidden within. The WHOLE BOOK, is one long love letter to His beloved creation, detailing His nature and how He will bring her back....ALL OF HER, every man in his own season. And yes, some will go by winter, even though it says to take care that you're flight be not in winter (death). Peace
Well, if that's the case why doesn't Jesus just tell us that instead of making us wrack our brains to figure it out? I guarantee 99% of Christians would NEVER have arrived at your interpretation---provided we could prove 99% of Christians have even read the passage.
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Old 08-30-2016, 03:01 PM
 
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As have I. But the parts that have inspired and influenced me are the parts or ideas or thoughts that do not actually require me to subscribe to anything on a lack of substantiation.
I agree.
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Old 08-30-2016, 08:58 PM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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You can read his words same as I can.
Except I know better than to use the words of Christ to JUDGE others and condemn their lives..
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Old 08-30-2016, 08:59 PM
 
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Liberal-speak...say a lot, say nothing.
Only hose who have been taken in by the false teachings of man would not her the truth.
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Old 08-31-2016, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Except I know better than to use the words of Christ to JUDGE others and condemn their lives..
I was talking about the words of thrillobyte. He see everything in scripture as conflicting.
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Old 08-31-2016, 07:33 AM
 
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Only those who have been taken in by the false teachings of man would not hear the truth.
I agree.
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Old 08-31-2016, 08:36 AM
 
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I was talking about the words of thrillobyte. He see everything in scripture as conflicting.
Not everything. Quite a bit. I and others have clearly outlined many of the innumerable conflicts . But let me understand this: you see absolutely NOTHING conflicting in the Bible?????
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Old 08-31-2016, 08:48 AM
 
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Well, if that's the case why doesn't Jesus just tell us that instead of making us wrack our brains to figure it out? I guarantee 99% of Christians would NEVER have arrived at your interpretation---provided we could prove 99% of Christians have even read the passage.
Jesus makes you wrack your brain to figure out Rbbi's interpretation because, otherwise, how could she feel superior to you? God has chosen her to understand things that you dont, because she sacrificed her life to understand it and you didn't, and her reward is knowing that she is better than you.


Just jump on her spiritual bandwagon, and you too can look down on others.
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Old 08-31-2016, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Jesus makes you wrack your brain to figure out Rbbi's interpretation because, otherwise, how could she feel superior to you? God has chosen her to understand things that you dont, because she sacrificed her life to understand it and you didn't, and her reward is knowing that she is better than you.


Just jump on her spiritual bandwagon, and you too can look down on others.
From the lofty heights of Mount Wrong.


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Old 08-31-2016, 10:06 AM
 
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Jesus makes you wrack your brain to figure out Rbbi's interpretation because, otherwise, how could she feel superior to you? God has chosen her to understand things that you dont, because she sacrificed her life to understand it and you didn't, and her reward is knowing that she is better than you.


Just jump on her spiritual bandwagon, and you too can look down on others.
That bandwagon is the height of Mt Everest. I get nosebleeds at those heights.

But I hear what you're saying. Many Christians are good non-judgemental people. They live and let live. But most Christians Fundamentalists are spiritual jihadists. They don't use physical bombs to blow up their enemies, they use the Bible to beat them to death. I've always believed even when I was a Christian that Fundamentalist churches were bastions of elitism where the doctrine of eternal torment thrives like weeds in a barren field. There, well-off white Christians with 3.5 children who live in walled-off enclaves of beautiful large homes could mingle with their equally well-off friends in their local mega-church run by pastors who preach the prosperity gospel. They could talk of how God has blessed them so abundantly and how they are so grateful they are not part of the poor rabble outside their walls who they have no doubts are the worst of sinners bound for eternal fiery punishment. Yes, I was happy to leave this kind of elitism far behind me.
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