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Old 03-08-2017, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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For now not all are IN CHRIST. But that is not the end of the story. Just as God "cut off" the Jews to bring in the Gentiles, in a similar way, it is not his plan to redeem all people in this lifetime. However, God will get everything - the whole lot - to be revealed in due time. God cannot possibly lose anything that belongs to himself. Oh ye of little faith.
The scriptural evidence against universalism is overwhelming. Share the gospel now, before it's too late!
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Old 03-08-2017, 04:46 PM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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The scriptural evidence against universalism is overwhelming. Share the gospel now, before it's too late!
The evidence of FORGIVENESS is OVERWHELMING..share the LOVE NOW, before it is too late..
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Old 03-08-2017, 04:47 PM
 
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Lurking...
So glad you decided to SPEAK UP...
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Old 03-08-2017, 04:51 PM
 
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I think God loves those who are "in Christ" and desires that all be so.
GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD...did you see any exceptions??
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Old 03-08-2017, 04:54 PM
 
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You are correct. I did a poor job of stating my point. As much as I quote John 3, I should not have missed that. In my defense, I did say God desires all to be saved.

What I meant was, while "God so loved the world", many reject Christ and remain unredeemed.
You cannot prove this with any valid or reliable data...

I believe it is more accurate to say MANY HAVE ACCEPTED A FALSE DOCTRINE OF HATE, BIGOTRY AND OPPRESSION and use GOD to justify denying the masses FOOD, HEALTH CARE, HOUSING, EDUCATION and ECONOMIC EQUALITY...
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Old 03-08-2017, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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The evidence of FORGIVENESS is OVERWHELMING..share the LOVE NOW, before it is too late..
Agreed.
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Old 03-08-2017, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD...did you see any exceptions??
No, but read the rest of that chapter.
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Old 03-08-2017, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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You cannot prove this with any valid or reliable data...

I believe it is more accurate to say MANY HAVE ACCEPTED A FALSE DOCTRINE OF HATE, BIGOTRY AND OPPRESSION and use GOD to justify denying the masses FOOD, HEALTH CARE, HOUSING, EDUCATION and ECONOMIC EQUALITY...
You're correct that there is a lot of hate in this world. Nevertheless, Jesus said narrow road/wide road.
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Old 03-08-2017, 07:33 PM
 
Location: US
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Does God love everyone? Yes. Does God love Christians more than He loves non-Christians? No. Does God love Christians to a different extent than He loves non-Christians? Yes. God loves everyone equally in that He is merciful to all. God has a unique relationship with Christians in that only Christians have His eternal grace and mercy and the promise of His forever love in heaven. The unconditional love God has for everyone should bring us to faith in Him, receiving in thankfulness the great conditional love He grants all those who receive Jesus Christ as Savior.

Does God love everyone or just Christians?
That would be the Juice that He loves...
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Old 03-08-2017, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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The scriptural evidence against universalism is overwhelming. Share the gospel now, before it's too late!
Actually, Jimmiej, that would not be true; and it's never to late. Unless, you believe in the false teaching of eternal damnation that entered the Church or Religious Organizations over the centuries.

The words endless torment (adialeipton timorion), eternal imprisonment (aidios eirgmos) or eternal punishment (aidios kalasin) do not appear anywhere in the Greek New Testament, at least not in conjunction. Neither, will you find the term aidios timorion or eternal torment. Therefore, whoever says that there is an eternal time set for punishment beyond this life is sadly mistaken. It's a limited duration of aionion (αώνιον - a period of time, as in an age) kalasin (Κόλασιν - chastisement or correction) which is in view; but the day and hour that it begins and ends is unpredictable. If it were eternal, then the word Aidios would have been used. But not even Jesus used the word for eternal in conjunction with any kind of punishment.
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