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Old 10-11-2016, 07:24 PM
 
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I guess I don't understand your statement, so unless you want to dumb it down for me, we're at an impasse.
You refuse to accept that the Spirit, NOT the Bible, is the final authority. Your absurd belief that they are never in conflict is a "precept and doctrine of men" that appears nowhere nor does the claim that the Bible is the 100% inerrant word of God. Those are human precepts and you have been trapped by them. They are lies fabricated to make the Bible an Idol equal to God and the church its only interpreter.

 
Old 10-11-2016, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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I guess I don't understand your statement, so unless you want to dumb it down for me, we're at an impasse.
You claim authority for the Bible, and act as though we are accepting that preposterous idea BY quoting from the Bible. You have been told that the scriptures ONLY have value when they are confirmed by the Spirit.

Unless you can understand this, you will keep making the SAME inane comment and I will keep calling you on it. You are not that dumb.
 
Old 10-11-2016, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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You claim authority for the Bible, and act as though we are accepting that preposterous idea BY quoting from the Bible. You have been told that the scriptures ONLY have value when they are confirmed by the Spirit.

Unless you can understand this, you will keep making the SAME inane comment and I will keep calling you on it. You are not that dumb.
Give me an example of a scripture (or better yet something Jesus said) that is NOT confirmed by the Spirit.
 
Old 10-11-2016, 07:34 PM
 
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You have probably noted that the degrading comments have only been posted by those complaining about others. No one in disagreement has said such things. I think that shows who has the idea women have minimal value, especially any that disagree with them.

Very revealing.
 
Old 10-11-2016, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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Give me an example of a scripture (or better yet something Jesus said) that is NOT confirmed by the Spirit.
Once again that has NOTHING to do with the question of assigning authority. What is so hard?
 
Old 10-11-2016, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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You have probably noted that the degrading comments have only been posted by those complaining about others. No one in disagreement has said such things. I think that shows who has the idea women have minimal value, especially any that disagree with them.

Very revealing.
Unlike the biblical burkas you drape your women in, reducing them to silent, 2nd-rate status on the human scale.

Only slightly above the dreaded LGBTQ.
 
Old 10-11-2016, 07:42 PM
 
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I never said women were deficient. I said that God's Word has a prerequisite for the offices of pastor/elder and deacon to be male.
Which is highly debatable btw.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9IXrMQnY00



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYiVjTwOWt8



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBg-UBJY7MA
 
Old 10-11-2016, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Once again that has NOTHING to do with the question of assigning authority. What is so hard?
You're not making any sense. I have no idea what you're trying to say.
 
Old 10-11-2016, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Anderson, IN
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Thank you z, for posting this. It's good to know that someone is discussing this here, while I've been off holding other Christians accountable for this elsewhere.
 
Old 10-11-2016, 08:30 PM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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Those with God's spirit know there is no problem as you present it. Those without it, think it means the Bible is not God's word. Jesus had no problem with using it in his day, a good example for us.
those who are self-deluded believe there is no problem..in reality these example either prove errors or proves the god of the OT is the author of confusion..
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