Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Religion and Spirituality > Christianity
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 05-08-2017, 09:57 PM
 
Location: US
32,533 posts, read 22,158,005 times
Reputation: 2229

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by KRAMERCAT View Post
Yes, Jesus was sent by His Father to witness to the 'post', as well as the 'lost' sheep of the house of Israel. If you would read a little more of the NT, you would learn that Jesus reached out to the Jew first, and then the Gentile. He and His apostles witnessed and converted many Jews and Gentiles, both in Jewish and Gentile lands.
When did he reach out to the Gentile?...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 05-08-2017, 10:21 PM
 
6,518 posts, read 2,752,457 times
Reputation: 339
Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard1965 View Post
When did he reach out to the Gentile?...
He did by his spirit and his disciples and the billions of christians converted not at the point of the sword but at the lions dens at the stake is reason enough to know he was there every second, revealing to his followers even at their last breath that he was with them. even as they died at the hands of even the same Jews Jesus had offered to save by giving them the invitation first.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-09-2017, 12:12 AM
 
Location: US
32,533 posts, read 22,158,005 times
Reputation: 2229
Quote:
Originally Posted by n..Xuipa View Post
He did by his spirit and his disciples and the billions of christians converted not at the point of the sword but at the lions dens at the stake is reason enough to know he was there every second, revealing to his followers even at their last breath that he was with them. even as they died at the hands of even the same Jews Jesus had offered to save by giving them the invitation first.
A little something that you may not realize, but the lost sheep of the House Of Israel were not the Pharasee and Saddusee....So, they didn't reject him, according to your NT...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-09-2017, 10:14 AM
 
4,538 posts, read 4,825,833 times
Reputation: 1549
Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard1965 View Post
A little something that you may not realize, but the lost sheep of the House Of Israel were not the Pharasee and Saddusee....So, they didn't reject him, according to your NT...
[SIZE=3][/SIZE][SIZE=3]Matthew: 11 For the Son of Man hascome to save that which was lost[/SIZE][SIZE=3]. 12 “What do you think? If a man has ahundred sheep, and one of them goes astray, does he not leave the ninety-nineand go to the mountains to seek the one that is straying?[/SIZE][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][SIZE=3]13 And if he should find it, assuredly, I sayto you, he rejoices more over that sheep than over the ninety-nine that did notgo astray.[/SIZE][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][SIZE=3]14 Even so it is not the willof your Father who is in heaven that one of these little ones should perish.â€[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]
[/SIZE]

[SIZE=3]Jesus did indeed come to save the ‘lost’ sheep of Israelfirst. He also went to the Gentile lands to perform healings and to feed the4,000. The Gentiles there received Him with more faith than His ‘own’ people.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3][/SIZE][SIZE=3]He appeared to Paul, a Pharisee, and told him to witness tothe Gentiles as well as the Jews. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]
[/SIZE]

[SIZE=3] [/SIZE][SIZE=3]Peter was initially influencedby the Judaizers, but then he witnessed the Holy Spirit descending on theGentile as well as Jewish believers. Peter was also shown that he should notcall ‘unclean’ that which the Lord calls ‘clean’.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3][/SIZE][SIZE=3]Jesus said that He would be killed by the Jewish leaders asthey killed John the Baptist. So yes, Jesus was sent first to the Jews, buttheir leaders rejected and killed Him, so the Gentiles were grafted into Hisplan of redemption.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]
[/SIZE]
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-09-2017, 11:50 AM
 
Location: US
32,533 posts, read 22,158,005 times
Reputation: 2229
Quote:
Originally Posted by KRAMERCAT View Post
[SIZE=3][/SIZE][SIZE=3]Matthew: 11 For the Son of Man hascome to save that which was lost[/SIZE][SIZE=3]. 12 “What do you think? If a man has ahundred sheep, and one of them goes astray, does he not leave the ninety-nineand go to the mountains to seek the one that is straying?[/SIZE][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][SIZE=3]13 And if he should find it, assuredly, I sayto you, he rejoices more over that sheep than over the ninety-nine that did notgo astray.[/SIZE][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][SIZE=3]14 Even so it is not the willof your Father who is in heaven that one of these little ones should perish.â€[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]
[/SIZE]

[SIZE=3]Jesus did indeed come to save the ‘lost’ sheep of Israelfirst. He also went to the Gentile lands to perform healings and to feed the4,000. The Gentiles there received Him with more faith than His ‘own’ people.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3][/SIZE][SIZE=3]He appeared to Paul, a Pharisee, and told him to witness tothe Gentiles as well as the Jews. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]
[/SIZE]

[SIZE=3] [/SIZE][SIZE=3]Peter was initially influencedby the Judaizers, but then he witnessed the Holy Spirit descending on theGentile as well as Jewish believers. Peter was also shown that he should notcall ‘unclean’ that which the Lord calls ‘clean’.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3][/SIZE][SIZE=3]Jesus said that He would be killed by the Jewish leaders asthey killed John the Baptist. So yes, Jesus was sent first to the Jews, buttheir leaders rejected and killed Him, so the Gentiles were grafted into Hisplan of redemption.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]
[/SIZE]
This has nothing to do with what I posted...And it's a mess with all the tags...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-09-2017, 11:56 AM
 
Location: US
32,533 posts, read 22,158,005 times
Reputation: 2229
Quote:
Originally Posted by KRAMERCAT View Post
Matthew: 11 For the Son of Man hascome to save that which was lost.

And what was it that was lost?...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-09-2017, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Arizona
28,956 posts, read 16,480,178 times
Reputation: 2296
Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard1965 View Post
And what was it that was lost?...
The capacity to think, reason, and understand for oneself.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-09-2017, 07:37 PM
 
Location: US
32,533 posts, read 22,158,005 times
Reputation: 2229
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerwade View Post
The capacity to think, reason, and understand for oneself.
I meant according to their NT...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-10-2017, 12:32 PM
 
4,538 posts, read 4,825,833 times
Reputation: 1549
Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard1965 View Post
I meant according to their NT...

I find it amusing that some Jews (a 'Jew' being a person of the paternal lineage of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob) will insist that Jesus came for the Jews only and not the Gentiles, and then proceed to reject Him, similar to the Jewish leaders of the time when Jesus walked the earth.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-13-2017, 04:31 AM
 
Location: US
32,533 posts, read 22,158,005 times
Reputation: 2229
Quote:
Originally Posted by KRAMERCAT View Post
I find it amusing that some Jews (a 'Jew' being a person of the paternal lineage of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob) will insist that Jesus came for the Jews only and not the Gentiles, and then proceed to reject Him, similar to the Jewish leaders of the time when Jesus walked the earth.
I am just pointing out what your New Testament says, that most of you Christians tend to ignore in favor of what you have been taught...Your own New Testament has him stating that he was sent only to the lost sheep of the House of Israel...

No, a Jew is not a descendant of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob only, but a Jew is one who follows HaShem's Torah and His Feasts and His Sabbaths...

The Israelites did not come into being until Mt. Sinai...The name "Jew" came from the tribe of Judah...


Jewish leaders of the time?...Well, there you go, he came for the lost sheep of the house of Israel only...So, he wasn't concerned with those others...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Religion and Spirituality > Christianity
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:38 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top