Why do Christians accept adulterers' weddings but not same-sex weddings? (Corinthians, Georgia)
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Abuse is not a scriptural reason for divorce and/or remarriage. Biblically there isn't really any abuse unless it is the wife doing it to the husband. A wife is to be in subjection to her husband. Widowed is a Biblical reason for remarriage.
Precisely. In fact, I believe that 'equality for women' would generally be a non-scriptural notion. Not too many Christians appear to know that a woman was the property of her husband, just like his home, his cattle, his chattels, etc. That said, the Bible probably would be against gay marriage (between males anyway) since one or the other would be appearing to take on the lesser female role. Strange times...
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Precisely. In fact, I believe that 'equality for women' would generally be a non-scriptural notion. Not too many Christians appear to know that a woman was the property of her husband, just like his home, his cattle, his chattels, etc. That said, the Bible probably would be against gay marriage (between males anyway) since one or the other would be appearing to take on the lesser female role. Strange times...
Most Christians know this but it isn't as you seem to portrey it
Wow FAR FROM IT
A woman is who the husband is to love "as Christ loved the church"
I realize you come here to condemn Christians but you really need to learn the gospel before you claim to "run circles around" Christians.
Because Christians know the gospel.
And despite your lack of remorse when you are wrong, which is much of the time since you know little of the gospel, Christians will always trump you. So instead of clinging to pushing your stereoptypes, actually try reading the bible. People were created for a purpose so each thread trying to justify sin is fruitless. It cannot be done by imagining sins Christians commit.
You are hell bent to use the Bible for the destruction of Gods people so thus you need to know it.
don't bother to waste my time becoming "offended" it is useless and a waste of my energy. Read the gospel, don't think you know more then everyone, and use it to save yourself. That is the most important. Not this stereoptyping and labels you push with each of your posts. This isnt high school. Time to grow out of labeling people, name calling and these stereotypes.
Do you have any idea the kind of awesome love this requires? Christ died on the CROSS so we could live. This is what the HUSBAND is to give up for the wife. His entire life! He is to DIE for her. This is NOTHING like what people can imagine. This is a love far beyond what we can ever fathom to sacrifice ourselves for. But it is the love that CHRISTIAN husbands routinely agree to do. And will do when/if called by GOD.
Ephesians 5:22
Wives, be subject to your own husbands, as to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ also is the head of the church, He Himself being the Savior of the body. 24 But as the church is subject to Christ, so also the wives ought to be to their husbands in everything. 25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself up for her, 26 so that He might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word,
Precisely. In fact, I believe that 'equality for women' would generally be a non-scriptural notion. Not too many Christians appear to know that a woman was the property of her husband, just like his home, his cattle, his chattels, etc. That said, the Bible probably would be against gay marriage (between males anyway) since one or the other would be appearing to take on the lesser female role. Strange times...
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Originally Posted by Jeaniee
Most Christians know this but it isn't as you seem to portrey it
Wow FAR FROM IT
A woman is who the husband is to love "as Christ loved the church"
I realize you come here to condemn Christians but you really need to learn the gospel before you claim to "run circles around" Christians.
I previously told you that I was wrong in saying that. I also said that it was a knee-jerk response to your having implied that I was a Bible-ignoramus. Was that not enough for you, Jeaniee?
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Originally Posted by Jeaniee
Because Christians know the gospel.
They do? Well, alright. I'll take your word (with a smidgin' of salt) that you know the minds of every professed Christian.
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Originally Posted by Jeaniee
And despite your lack of remorse when you are wrong . . .
Huh? What have I ever said that would require 'remorse' from me, for heaven's sake? Moreover, when am I EVER wrong ...? (wink)
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Originally Posted by Jeaniee
. . .which is much of the time since you know little of the gospel, Christians will always trump you.
The gospel ...Jesus Christ died to pay the penalty for our sin so that we might become the children of God through faith alone in Christ alone. Is there more to it? We're also reminded to love one another. That includes homosexuals and also homosexuals who wish to marry. Do you love homosexuals, Jeaniee?
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Originally Posted by Jeaniee
So instead of clinging to pushing your stereoptypes, actually try reading the bible. People were created for a purpose so each thread trying to justify sin is fruitless. It cannot be done by imagining sins Christians commit.
I really have no idea what you're talking about, Jeaniee. What 'sins' am I imagining? Are you sure you have the right person?
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Originally Posted by Jeaniee
You are hell bent to use the Bible for the destruction of Gods people so thus you need to know it.
Again, are you mistaking me for someone else? All I have offered on this page thus far is that divorce and remarriage are vetoed in the Bible. Fact! I have also said quite plainly that most Christians accept scriptural adulterers (those that are married to someone else where the previous spouse is still living) into their fold with open arms but do not accept gay marriage. Also fact.
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Originally Posted by Jeaniee
don't bother to waste my time becoming "offended" it is useless and a waste of my energy.
What ARE you talking about, Jeaniee? Where have I been 'offended' by something that you've said?
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Originally Posted by Jeaniee
Read the gospel, don't think you know more then everyone, and use it to save yourself.
Save myself from what? That fictitious but horrific hell that Christians believe the Old Testament God set up for most of His creation? Poppycock!
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Originally Posted by Jeaniee
That is the most important. Not this stereoptyping and labels you push with each of your posts. This isnt high school. Time to grow out of labeling people, name calling and these stereotypes.
Um, Jeaniee ...get a grip on yourself. Where have I stereo-typed and labeled people? Just a reminder, this is RomulusXXV. Are you confusing me with someone else?
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Originally Posted by Jeaniee
Do you have any idea the kind of awesome love this requires? Christ died on the CROSS so we could live.
But, but ...why would Jesus have had to go through such a gruesome death when His father could have just as easily revoked His "the wages of sin is death' clause? Why all of the needless and cruel dramatics? Does all of this REALLY make sense to you, Jeaniee?
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Originally Posted by Jeaniee
This is what the HUSBAND is to give up for the wife. His entire life! He is to DIE for her. This is NOTHING like what people can imagine. This is a love far beyond what we can ever fathom to sacrifice ourselves for. But it is the love that CHRISTIAN husbands routinely agree to do. And will do when/if called by GOD.
This fairy story has to end and reality has to kick in here ...why the heck would God be calling any husband to die for his wife? And, if He did then the husband would be well within his rights to tell God to go bite Himself ...! No offense, God ...I don't believe a word of this. This is all coming from your mind, Jeaniee.
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Originally Posted by Jeaniee
Ephesians 5:22
Wives, be subject to your own husbands, as to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ also is the head of the church, He Himself being the Savior of the body. 24 But as the church is subject to Christ, so also the wives ought to be to their husbands in everything. 25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself up for her, 26 so that He might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word,
It's clear here that Paul is reminding the wives that they are the property of the husband, make no mistake about that. They are to be subjected to their husbands in EVERYTHING. The 'husbands, love your wives' part is rather wish-washy. Moreover, it seems that the husbands in question were not doing this and were having to be reminded. And, don't forget that this very same Paul FORBADE women to speak in the church! Why do you think that, even today, most churches will not ordain women? This is due to the teachings of Paul!
Precisely. In fact, I believe that 'equality for women' would generally be a non-scriptural notion. Not too many Christians appear to know that a woman was the property of her husband, just like his home, his cattle, his chattels, etc. That said, the Bible probably would be against gay marriage (between males anyway) since one or the other would be appearing to take on the lesser female role. Strange times...
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Originally Posted by daprara
do you guys actually read this stuff after you post it?
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Originally Posted by RomulusXXV ... anyway) since one or the other would be appearing to take on the lesser female role. Strange times...
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Originally Posted by daprara do you guys actually read this stuff after you post it?
RomulusXXV:
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Yes, this guy most assuredly does.
Do you have something more than a drive-by comment to add to what I said ...?
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Originally Posted by RomulusXXV Precisely. In fact, I believe that 'equality for women' would generally be a non-scriptural notion. Not too many Christians appear to know that a woman was the property of her husband, just like his home, his cattle, his chattels, etc. That said, the Bible probably would be against gay marriage (between males anyway) since one or the other would be appearing to take on the lesser female role. Strange times...
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Originally Posted by Jeaniee Most Christians know this but it isn't as you seem to portrey it
Wow FAR FROM IT
A woman is who the husband is to love "as Christ loved the church"
I realize you come here to condemn Christians but you really need to learn the gospel before you claim to "run circles around" Christians.
I previously told you that I was wrong in saying that. I also said that it was a knee-jerk response to your having implied that I was a Bible-ignoramus. Was that not enough for you, Jeaniee?
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Originally Posted by Jeaniee Because Christians know the gospel.
They do? Well, alright. I'll take your word (with a smidgin' of salt) that you know the minds of every professed Christian.
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Originally Posted by Jeaniee And despite your lack of remorse when you are wrong . . .
Huh? What have I ever said that would require 'remorse' from me, for heaven's sake? Moreover, when am I EVER wrong ...? (wink)
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Originally Posted by Jeaniee
. . . .which is much of the time since you know little of the gospel, Christians will always trump you.
The gospel ...Jesus Christ died to pay the penalty for our sin so that we might become the children of God through faith alone in Christ alone. Is there more to it? We're also reminded to love one another. That includes homosexuals and also homosexuals who wish to marry. Do you love homosexuals, Jeaniee?
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Originally Posted by Jeaniee So instead of clinging to pushing your stereoptypes, actually try reading the bible. People were created for a purpose so each thread trying to justify sin is fruitless. It cannot be done by imagining sins Christians commit.
I really have no idea what you're talking about, Jeaniee. What 'sins' am I imagining? Are you sure you have the right person?
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Originally Posted by Jeaniee You are hell bent to use the Bible for the destruction of Gods people so thus you need to know it.
Again, are you mistaking me for someone else? All I have offered on this page thus far is that divorce and remarriage are vetoed in the Bible. Fact! I have also said quite plainly that most Christians accept scriptural adulterers (those that are married to someone else where the previous spouse is still living) into their fold with open arms but do not accept gay marriage. Also fact.
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Originally Posted by Jeaniee don't bother to waste my time becoming "offended" it is useless and a waste of my energy.
What ARE you talking about, Jeaniee? Where have I been 'offended' by something that you've said?
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Originally Posted by Jeaniee Read the gospel, don't think you know more then everyone, and use it to save yourself.
Save myself from what? That fictitious but horrific hell that Christians believe the Old Testament God set up for most of His creation? Poppycock!
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Originally Posted by Jeaniee That is the most important. Not this stereoptyping and labels you push with each of your posts. This isnt high school. Time to grow out of labeling people, name calling and these stereotypes.
Um, Jeaniee ...get a grip on yourself. Where have I stereo-typed and labeled people? Just a reminder, this is RomulusXXV. Are you confusing me with someone else?
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Originally Posted by Jeaniee Do you have any idea the kind of awesome love this requires? Christ died on the CROSS so we could live.
But, but ...why would Jesus have had to go through such a gruesome death when His father could have just as easily revoked His "the wages of sin is death' clause? Why all of the needless and cruel dramatics? Does all of this REALLY make sense to you, Jeaniee?
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Originally Posted by Jeaniee This is what the HUSBAND is to give up for the wife. His entire life! He is to DIE for her. This is NOTHING like what people can imagine. This is a love far beyond what we can ever fathom to sacrifice ourselves for. But it is the love that CHRISTIAN husbands routinely agree to do. And will do when/if called by GOD.
This fairy story has to end and reality has to kick in here ...why the heck would God be calling any husband to die for his wife? And, if He did then the husband would be well within his rights to tell God to go bite Himself ...! No offense, God ...I don't believe a word of this. This is all coming from your mind, Jeaniee.
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Originally Posted by Jeaniee Ephesians 5:22
Wives, be subject to your own husbands, as to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ also is the head of the church, He Himself being the Savior of the body. 24 But as the church is subject to Christ, so also the wives ought to be to their husbands in everything. 25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself up for her, 26 so that He might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word,
It's clear here that Paul is reminding the wives that they are the property of the husband, make no mistake about that. They are to be subjected to their husbands in EVERYTHING. The 'husbands, love your wives' part is rather wish-washy. Moreover, it seems that the husbands in question were not doing this and were having to be reminded. And, don't forget that this very same Paul FORBADE women to speak in the church! Why do you think that, even today, most churches will not ordain women? This is due to the teachings of Paul!
All you have provided is what the authorities need to come and arrest you right on the spot for stalking Saul.
As how many times have the warnings gone out same person same name same badge# the search warrants are on.
O/\/ delivered warrants to police long before a stalking career had to show up and try his manners again causing doubting.
Thou shalt not cause a husband and a wife to have issues between their marriage because someone is too arrogant to 'belong'.
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Well, what more would be expected from someone whose backwards quote from post #702 goes:
Motivation the address don't which but actions appropriate the give should that rules or laws the not and "Covenant New" the guides that principle the is it that is difference the.
Which demonstrates that the bakers' stance is nothing but hypocrisy.
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