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Old 10-30-2017, 09:26 PM
 
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How do you determine that a person is an adulterer?

I am a Christian and I voted No in the same-sex marriage survey in Australia.
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Old 10-30-2017, 10:30 PM
 
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As a Born Again Christian, i will agree that gays are sometimes singled out over other sexual sin, and that is wrong. Preaching on adultry, pornography or even obesity would "step on too many toes" in the congregation. That being said, I have no sympathy for gays complaining about bakers, etc. There are plenty who will make their cake- i think many deliberately go to Christians just so they can stir up trouble

OR, maybe they had the best tasting cake with the best artistic work at the best price.
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Old 10-31-2017, 12:00 AM
 
Location: Townsville
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How do you determine that a person is an adulterer?
If they are on their second (or third, etc.) marriage and their former partner/s is/are alive ...then they are scriptural adulterers.

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I am a Christian and I voted No in the same-sex marriage survey in Australia.
Would you vote "No" if there was a similar survey for divorcees to remarry?
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Old 10-31-2017, 01:22 AM
 
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I'm thinking about the Christian bakers who refused to bake wedding cakes for same-sex weddings and the clerk who refused to issue the marriage certificate to a same-sex couple.

And what exactly is a sincerely held religious belief with regard to this topic?

Thanks and God bless.
That baker would not make divorce cakes or many other type of cakes that went against his conscience. I admire him for that.
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Old 10-31-2017, 02:18 AM
 
Location: Townsville
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That baker would not make divorce cakes or many other type of cakes that went against his conscience. I admire him for that.
What is a 'divorce' cake?
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Old 10-31-2017, 02:45 AM
 
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What is a 'divorce' cake?
All it means is the person has a history of divorce which is not ordained or o'dk by GOD

God outlines some reasons he has ok'd for divorce allowing the widow to marry in the future

Luckily the new covenant is defined by LOVE

ANd if they Love GOD and their neighbor as they loved themselves

Jesus blood covers their present and future, sins

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Old 10-31-2017, 04:47 AM
 
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What is a 'divorce' cake?
I would think a cake for someone celebrating a divorce.
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Old 10-31-2017, 05:24 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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That baker would not make divorce cakes or many other type of cakes that went against his conscience. I admire him for that.
Then the Oregon bakers must be OK with second marriages. They made a wedding cake for one of the girls' mothers' wedding. The daughter had gone with the mother to order the cake, so they were known to the bakers. They came back to order the cake for the daughter's wedding. When asked for the names of the bride and groom, the bakers were told there were two brides. The bakers replied that they didn't approve of that wedding, so they refused to make the cake. Trouble ensued.

So, you can see that the Christian bakers were all OK with making a cake for people that were most likely adulterers by literal Biblical definitions, but they refused to even discuss further the proposed cake design for the two women.

Put another way, they had no problem ignoring a violation of the Ten Commandments, but put their foot down at a sin they disapproved of.
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Old 10-31-2017, 05:27 AM
 
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Then the Oregon bakers must be OK with second marriages. They made a wedding cake for one of the girls' mothers' wedding. The daughter had gone with the mother to order the cake, so they were known to the bakers. They came back to order the cake for the daughter's wedding. When asked for the names of the bride and groom, the bakers were told there were two brides. The bakers replied that they didn't approve of that wedding, so they refused to make the cake. Trouble ensued.

So, you can see that the Christian bakers were all OK with making a cake for people that were most likely adulterers by literal Biblical definitions, but they refused to even discuss further the proposed cake design for the two women.

Put another way, they had no problem ignoring a violation of the Ten Commandments, but put their foot down at a sin they disapproved of.
Ain't it a hoot?...
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Old 10-31-2017, 05:34 AM
 
Location: Townsville
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What is a 'divorce' cake?
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All it means is the person has a history of divorce which is not ordained or o'dk by GOD,
I was just joshin' ...I mean, a 'divorce cake' . . .seriously?

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God outlines some reasons he has ok'd for divorce allowing the widow to marry in the future.
Infidelity. That's it. Even then, no remarriage. Furthermore, a woman doesn't become a widow through divorce. A woman becomes a widow through the death of her spouse. The death of a spouse THEN frees that person up to remarry ...but ONLY to someone who has never previously married or whose spouse has also passed away. ANY sexual relationship with anyone other than one's living married partner is tantamount to adultery. It not only stands to reason but this is also according to scripture.

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Luckily the new covenant is defined by LOVE
LOVE is NOT unique to any 'new' covenant. "For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another (1 John 3:11)."

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ANd if they Love GOD and their neighbor as they loved themselves Jesus blood covers their present and future, sins
Do you take the same view for a same-sex wedded couple?
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