Why do Christians accept adulterers' weddings but not same-sex weddings? (Jews, Satan)
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You're right, but it really has nothing to do with the Christians that the whole rotten economy collapses.
You're right in a way Christians are not to value the material world as much as those things that God has.
But what happens to the economy is not their fault, but individuals running it aground for democracies.
You cannot expect Christians who cannot partake in such a governing structure which always withholds
To feel like taking part in something that has discriminated against them giving them only the hard times.
Christians are to be the salt of the earth not the other way around where one grain of salt can cause lights.
Meaning it is said that a single grain of salt can light up a whole house for several weeks, perhaps months.
The light of the world is the Lord Jesus Christ not the same institutions that have worked against Exodus.
'The dust of the field is mankind trying to improve something God created already, but he never arrives.'
You're right about 2nd thing and that is the amount of unjustified drug use promoted by pharmaceuticals.
It's in the food, the water, the soil, the air, in that exactly who is it that allows for planes flying chemtrails.
The lack of water one place, its abundance elsewhere, has mankind figured out why the land languishes?
'And so the land collapsed inside of mid-Winter and there was no more heat of the sun, only the LORD's.'
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You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’ But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles. Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.
matt 5:38-40
So how do you think bakers in Colorado refusing to bake a cake for a gay couple. They weren't required to participate in a wedding as the couple had already married in Massachusetts. Think that baker would refuse the cake but take the shirt off his back and give it to them?
matt 5:38-40
So how do you think bakers in Colorado refusing to bake a cake for a gay couple. They weren't required to participate in a wedding as the couple had already married in Massachusetts. Think that baker would refuse the cake but take the shirt off his back and give it to them?
Yeshua is teaching the Torah.
"But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;"
Deuteronomy 30:11-20New International Version (NIV)
The Offer of Life or Death
11 Now what I am commanding you today is not too difficult for you or beyond your reach. 12 It is not up in heaven, so that you have to ask, “Who will ascend into heaven to get it and proclaim it to us so we may obey it?” 13 Nor is it beyond the sea, so that you have to ask, “Who will cross the sea to get it and proclaim it to us so we may obey it?” 14 No, the word is very near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart so you may obey it.
15 See, I set before you today life and prosperity, death and destruction. 16 For I command you today to love the Lord your God, to walk in obedience to him, and to keep his commands, decrees and laws; then you will live and increase, and the Lord your God will bless you in the land you are entering to possess.
17 But if your heart turns away and you are not obedient, and if you are drawn away to bow down to other gods and worship them, 18 I declare to you this day that you will certainly be destroyed. You will not live long in the land you are crossing the Jordan to enter and possess.
And what river again was it that yochanon washed the repentant hearts in.
What manner of priesthood would this be
Since you think calling people "sick", "hate filled", "coward" etc is just reasoned criticism, then perhaps it is you who is confused about it. You and 'troutdude' are in the same boat, since he too considers any insult just "accurate description" as long as it is directed at people who he does not consider as members of his "tribe".
You are trying to give yourself a free pass to condemn others. I told you before you would not have to spend so much time trying to justify your behavior if you lived what you try to preach.
I'm sorry, but sick, hate filled and coward GO with prejudice, and THAT label sticks as long as you refuse to engage in reasoned discourse on the issue, merely repeating the prejudiced misunderstanding of scripture that has oppressed innocent people for so long.
"When someone like twin looks at me, all they see is sin. They don't look beyond the caricature. That is so far from the truth."
Correct ... That is so far from the truth.
I see what all of what Scriptures teach, not the hopscotch approach that you \ Mightyqueen801 and others conveniently employ.
I see when God's Word the Scripture is quoted that:
1) judges the LGBT+ premise as rebellious sin ... the same hopscotch crowd recoils but then claims being a Christian.
2) declares the LGBT+ premise as being deceived ... the same hopscotch crowd recoils but then claims being a Christian.
3) refutes the LGBT+ premiseas being non-removable \ non sexually immoral ... the same hopscotch crowd recoils but then claims being a Christian.
I see when God's Word the Scripture is quoted that God desires the LGBT+ to turn from such sin and deception ... the same hopscotch crowd recoils but then claims being a Christian.
So, when are you going to actually engage in a rational examination of the "premise?"
I always appreciate your generosity of spirit, L8, but I'm going to disagree with you here. He has been told too many times that he is not being understood. IF he understood what rational is, he would not keep assuming that people will make the same connections. So, either he doesn't understand/isn't rational (which is what I'm choosing to believe at this point) or he is purposefully trying to confuse.
I do it too sometimes especially with my preferred method of songs. The difference I don't think I'm speaking in a language that certain people will understand because of some supernatural interpretation. If I'm being confusing it's just me being confusing and I adjust. I think Pin is under the impression that "the righteous will understand." If you don't understand then your just not righteous. There is Biblical support for that so that's how I'm making my assumptions.
I would have to disagree with you. Although much of my discussion with Pinacled has seemed that I was responding to a wacky conspiracy theory nut job, other exchanges have been with a civil thoughtful and rational minded person.
Why the two totally opposite types of posts? I have no clue but those are my observations. Civil and rational or uncivil and irrational and that is without a change in topic.
About 10% of the time he DOES seem rational, but its not something to have any confidence in.
I do it too sometimes especially with my preferred method of songs. The difference I don't think I'm speaking in a language that certain people will understand because of some supernatural interpretation. If I'm being confusing it's just me being confusing and I adjust. I think Pin is under the impression that "the righteous will understand." If you don't understand then your just not righteous. There is Biblical support for that so that's how I'm making my assumptions.
It would be great if you'd weigh in Pin.
Which would boil down to him being purposefully confusing. I, personally, find such a motive to be distasteful, and would much prefer to give him the benefit of the doubt that he's simply confused, himself.
You come here to call people "sick", "hate filled" and "salivating with joy". What do you call that if not condemning them?
Condemn: express complete disapproval of, typically in public.
But since you insist you are not any better than them, it can only mean you are just as hate-filled as them, so maybe you should concentrate on removing the plank in your own eye as opposed to pointing out the speck in other peoples eyes.
She didn't call you sick, but I said you are hypocritical based on your posts.
I didn't call you sick either. However the psycholigists who wrote The Fundamentalist Mindset---did. As one mental health reviewer wrote:
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The psychosocial factors which lead to Fundamentalism
By Ronald W. Maronon January 12, 2012
Format: Paperback
Although this is probably a somewhat difficult read for most casual readers, I found it to be engrossing. Having worked in the field of Mental Health for most of my career, this series of essays pinpoints the psychopathology behind the large number of minions who are attracted to this type of movement. They, for the most part, are not highly educated, were raised in an authoritarian environment, seek continual approval from persons that they deem more informed and charismatic than themselves and have an extreme feeling of hopelessness and dispair when it actively comes to dealing with the secular environment around them. The apocalyse is an important concept that they hold onto because it not only creates an "us" against "them" mentality which adds to their 'rightiousness' but provides for them an forecoming event whereby their dedication to this religious cause will be rewarded and the persons that they struggled with in life will meet their doomed fate of hell and damnation. Without saying, this is a very frightening and dogmatic group of people who, while they have been with us throughout the ages, offer a severe challange to the democratic countries inwhich they reside.
The last portion of the book sets aside the concerns of present-day literalists and reviews the past history of other fundamentalistic cults and their effect on society. Nazism, the French Revolution and the Hindi-Muslim conflicts in India all follow the patterns that were previously described in this text.
I strongly advise all Mental Health professionals and those who are actively involved with the actions of this sect to read this book thoroughly. One cannot deal with nor overcome an obstacle before one has a solid understanding of its cause. This series of essays provides that understanding.
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As this mental health professional states, "this is a frightening dogmatic group of people who, while they have been with us throughout the ages, offer a severe challenge to the democratic countries in which they reside."
Now I'm sure you will pooh-pooh this "scientific" review like you do evolutionists. But mentally healthy people have every reason to be concerned about the desire of fundamentalists to push their hypocritical "religious freedom" agenda to allow them to openly discriminate against those they deem "unworthy." What is apparent is that fundamentalists believe their Bible when it comes to its ugliest statements, but lack the cajones to love their enemies and treat them as they themselves want to be treated.
I do it too sometimes especially with my preferred method of songs. The difference I don't think I'm speaking in a language that certain people will understand because of some supernatural interpretation. If I'm being confusing it's just me being confusing and I adjust. I think Pin is under the impression that "the righteous will understand." If you don't understand then your just not righteous. There is Biblical support for that so that's how I'm making my assumptions.
It would be great if you'd weigh in Pin.
Well, I kind of used to be that superrationial, mechanical thinker with little regard of the spiritual aspect of life.
But it only took one moment to wash away what I was lied to about at an early age.
Once the experience happens, doubt is gone.
And it is nearly impossible to communicate with an unbeliever when there is no common experience.
The scriptures are written in a spiritual language. And just like any child, you need a Counselor to teach the language.
While Yeshua is intercessing for a person, they will grow.
Communication is also dependant on a persons spiritual maturity.
Well, I kind of used to be that superrationial, mechanical thinker with little regard of the spiritual aspect of life.
But it only took one moment to wash away what I was lied to about at an early age.
Once the experience happens, doubt is gone.
And it is nearly impossible to communicate with an unbeliever when there is no common experience.
The scriptures are written in a spiritual language. And just like any child, you need a Counselor.
So you are purposefully confusing. I will not make the mistake again of assuming your motives are benign.
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The difference I don't think I'm speaking in a language that certain people will understand because of some supernatural interpretation. If I'm being confusing it's just me being confusing and I adjust. I think Pin is under the impression that "the righteous will understand." If you don't understand then your just not righteous. There is Biblical support for that so that's how I'm making my assumptions.
