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John 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
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God answers prayers but we can pray/ask Mary as well. We don't think prayer is worship, just like I ask you or anyone else to pray for me, we can also ask Mary.
Yes, but how do you know that Mary hears your prayers? God has told us that He does, and that we should pray to him. Basically, you're just assuming that Mary has the power only Deity has, and Mary is not Deity. If you were to want someone here on earth to pray for you, you'd talk to them in person, call them on the phone, e-mail them or text them. You wouldn't just address them by thinking their name and silently asking them to pray for you. That's my only point. As much as I think Mary must have been the most incredible woman to have ever lived, I don't believe she is divine, and I wouldn't expect her to be able to hear me when I asked her for something any more than I would expect anyone else who has died to be able to. I just don't understand how the belief that she can even hear your prayers came about.
Yes, but how do you know that Mary hears your prayers? God has told us that He does, and that we should pray to him. Basically, you're just assuming that Mary has the power only Deity has, and Mary is not Deity. If you were to want someone here on earth to pray for you, you'd talk to them in person, call them on the phone, e-mail them or text them. You wouldn't just address them by thinking their name and silently asking them to pray for you. That's my only point. As much as I think Mary must have been the most incredible woman to have ever lived, I don't believe she is divine, and I wouldn't expect her to be able to hear me when I asked her for something any more than I would expect anyone else who has died to be able to. I just don't understand how the belief that she can even hear your prayers came about.
Basically, it's necromancy. Talking to, petitioning the dead, no matter who it is, is no different than necromancy as that is exactly what the word means. Peace
Yes, but how do you know that Mary hears your prayers? God has told us that He does, and that we should pray to him. Basically, you're just assuming that Mary has the power only Deity has, and Mary is not Deity. If you were to want someone here on earth to pray for you, you'd talk to them in person, call them on the phone, e-mail them or text them. You wouldn't just address them by thinking their name and silently asking them to pray for you. That's my only point. As much as I think Mary must have been the most incredible woman to have ever lived, I don't believe she is divine, and I wouldn't expect her to be able to hear me when I asked her for something any more than I would expect anyone else who has died to be able to. I just don't understand how the belief that she can even hear your prayers came about.
Yes, but how do you know that Mary hears your prayers? God has told us that He does, and that we should pray to him. Basically, you're just assuming that Mary has the power only Deity has, and Mary is not Deity. If you were to want someone here on earth to pray for you, you'd talk to them in person, call them on the phone, e-mail them or text them. You wouldn't just address them by thinking their name and silently asking them to pray for you. That's my only point. As much as I think Mary must have been the most incredible woman to have ever lived, I don't believe she is divine, and I wouldn't expect her to be able to hear me when I asked her for something any more than I would expect anyone else who has died to be able to. I just don't understand how the belief that she can even hear your prayers came about.
Mary plus all the saints in heaven hear our prayers to them.
Some get mixed up with semantics. They believe prayer is worship when most think of prayer as invoking or asking and that is all it means when it pertains to anyone besides our Lord and Savior.
Basically, it's necromancy. Talking to, petitioning the dead, no matter who it is, is no different than necromancy as that is exactly what the word means. Peace
Necromancy
Necromancy is a supposed practice of magic involving communication with the deceased – either by summoning their spirit as an apparition or raising them bodily – for the purpose of divination, imparting the means to foretell future events or discover hidden knowledge, to bring someone back from the dead, or to use the deceased as a weapon, as the term may sometimes be used in a more general sense to refer to black magic or witchcraft. In the online novel "Page Unbound", necromancy is used as a means to bring characters who had died in the story's background or fantasy novel worlds, for example when Naphtali Lightgrave summons Artemis. Naphtali is only able to summon those who died in history or the background of the story, and they come back as skeletal versions of themselves. He is able to use these powers by swearing loyalty to the one called "The First Mage". The word "necromancy" is adapted from Late Latin necromantia, itself borrowed from post-Classical Greek νεκρομαντεία, a compound of Ancient Greek νεκρός, "dead body", and μαντεία, "divination by means of"; this compound form was first used by Origen of Alexandria in the 3rd century AD. The Classical Greek term was ἡ νέκυια, from the episode of the Odyssey in which Odysseus visits the realm of the dead and νεκρομαντεία in Hellenistic Greek, rendered as necromantīa in Latin, and as necromancy in 17th-century English.
Praying to the saints is quite different then necromancy, which is black magic.
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