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Old 11-01-2017, 10:04 PM
 
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That sounded like arrogance

42 Bible verses about Prayer, For Others
So you see, praying for others does not make you an mediator between them and God. Just take it one step further to pray to the saints. The saints are in heaven with God, powerful prayers when they pray.
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Old 11-01-2017, 10:08 PM
 
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Odd then that He said this...

While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.

Mat 12:47 - Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.

Mat 12:48 - But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?

Mat 12:49 - And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!

Mat 12:50 - For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother
What do you think that means? You think Jesus would disrespect his mother when the ten Commandants says that is a sin. Jesus was without sin.
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Old 11-01-2017, 10:10 PM
 
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Odd then that He said this...

While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.

Mat 12:47 - Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.

Mat 12:48 - But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?

Mat 12:49 - And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!

Mat 12:50 - For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother
I doubt the Catholics actually teach any of the nonsense that is spread like rumors, gossip.
Smear tact.

The practices rumored about are more like pagan practices that are desperately trying to cry out for acceptance.
A fruitless attempt at a justification for something that exalts itself above God and teaches others the same.
Nonsense really.

Pray for those who dispisefully use you.

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Old 11-01-2017, 10:36 PM
 
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Necromancy

Necromancy is a supposed practice of magic involving communication with the deceased – either by summoning their spirit as an apparition or raising them bodily – for the purpose of divination, imparting the means to foretell future events or discover hidden knowledge, to bring someone back from the dead, or to use the deceased as a weapon, as the term may sometimes be used in a more general sense to refer to black magic or witchcraft. In the online novel "Page Unbound", necromancy is used as a means to bring characters who had died in the story's background or fantasy novel worlds, for example when Naphtali Lightgrave summons Artemis. Naphtali is only able to summon those who died in history or the background of the story, and they come back as skeletal versions of themselves. He is able to use these powers by swearing loyalty to the one called "The First Mage". The word "necromancy" is adapted from Late Latin necromantia, itself borrowed from post-Classical Greek νεκρομαντεία, a compound of Ancient Greek νεκρός, "dead body", and μαντεία, "divination by means of"; this compound form was first used by Origen of Alexandria in the 3rd century AD. The Classical Greek term was ἡ νέκυια, from the episode of the Odyssey in which Odysseus visits the realm of the dead and νεκρομαντεία in Hellenistic Greek, rendered as necromantīa in Latin, and as necromancy in 17th-century English.

Praying to the saints is quite different then necromancy, which is black magic.

And again, how exactly is it different? Peace
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Old 11-01-2017, 10:38 PM
 
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What do you think that means? You think Jesus would disrespect his mother when the ten Commandants says that is a sin. Jesus was without sin.

I think it means that He wasn't giving any place to the flesh, not even His earthly mother's flesh. Peace
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Old 11-01-2017, 10:40 PM
 
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I doubt the Catholics actually teach any of the nonsense that is spread like rumors, gossip.
Smear tact.

The practices are more like pagan practices that are desperately trying to cry out for acceptance.
A fruitless attempt at a justification for something that exalts itself above God and teaches others the same.
Nonsense really.

Pray for those who dispisefully use you.

Think not? Every heard the words to the rosary prayers? Peace
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Old 11-01-2017, 10:42 PM
 
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Think not? Every heard the words to the rosary prayers? Peace
Yes, I visited a few Catholic churchs and schools that had them listed on the school house walls.
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Old 11-02-2017, 12:14 AM
 
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And again, how exactly is it different? Peace
Because no one is dead. They are born again as Spirit. Death has been conquered and we follow Jesus into rebirth.
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Old 11-02-2017, 08:36 AM
 
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What do you think that means? You think Jesus would disrespect his mother when the ten Commandants says that is a sin. Jesus was without sin.
So is idolatry. And I doubt very much Jesus would have instructed us to pray to, venerate, or worship someone other than God.
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Old 11-02-2017, 09:12 AM
 
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So is idolatry. And I doubt very much Jesus would have instructed us to pray to, venerate, or worship someone other than God.
I doubt very much Catholics fret about what a Baptist fundie thinks.
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