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Originally Posted by SumTingy
If someone denies main parts of the Bible that were fully inspired by the Holy Spirit, how can they know who God is? They must make a god based on their own understanding or desires. That breaks the 1st Commandment.
And, if they are worshiping a false god how can they be saved?
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OH wow, what a tough question.
I can't tell who will be or won't be saved. there is a trail/ trial / train tracks we are coming to and well all humanity who overcomes will overcome by the blood of the lamb and my their faith in him.. but those Not " saved" from the hour of trail will have to go through something else unknown elements like not taking the mark of the beast and thus dying for their faith. if they didn't really believe the bible and have rationalized away most of it (which it is easy to believe men and self and not God/ the same two tree in the garden ) then what are the chances that these ones will all of a sudden take his word seriously?
but it does say old and new testament he gives an option of poking out your right eye and cutting off your right hand ( because it is the devil's and it was submitted willingly to him ) but Jesus says to throw it away, betterto lose those parts than to have the whole body thrown in hell also.. . here is the basic scripture about the eye and you can check other Books for the other versions and other verse about the right arm or the right hand. it is there they will have to cut it off or go to hell/eternal destruction with it .
Zec 11:17
Woe to the idol shepherd that leaveth the flock! the sword shall be upon his arm, and upon his right eye: his arm shall be clean dried up, and his right eye shall be utterly darkened.
Box Mat 5:29
And if thy right eye offends thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
He seems to be addressing jews and in the old testament version of that comment.. the " shepherds" can mean also kings and or leaders and or rabbi and or pastors.. just leaders of men.. and if the leaders are cutting off their right hands and right eyes.. then maybe the others will too.
so the question is still and has always been the same question... who has faith in his Love and in His laws and in his mercy? because those three thoughts are connected > to the Father Son and Holy spirit!
we have all at times rationalized away his word as if it was obsolete when nothing is farther from the truth.
and to all men days will come to that last chance before the Father himself say .. Now It is done Son.. sit here and rest .. and I am taking over.
but like Mathew 24 says ... when you see all these things coming " the end is not yet" and when you see all those other things "still the end is not yet" .. it is just the beginning of birth pains.. when nation raises against nation your just at the Bracks and Hicks pains pre pre labor . He is saying it ain't even real labor yet and he says that how many times ??!!! and we don't even have nations rising against nation yet.. we have lots of fools with nations doing the chicken dance but no one got froggy yet. but they will all have gotten froggy by the end.
Prophet Isa says by the end it is clear, men will be rarer than the gold of Opher. ansd he says the canopy which covers our world/ nations now will be gone and the world wobble forever like a drunkard.. only those who have been covered by his Sukkah/ camps/ Tabernacles of the righteous will eat or have enough .
only those who finally trusted in him and his word and his spirit will be saved and live into the next age of rest and peace. because they want his peace and his life , the only one he offers ,more than they wanted even their own life.
but there is also a reason to trust him now and not wait ... because I think the BIG surprizse is sukkah's come first and then men freak out and get froggy.. they are probably trying to blow up God , no doubt they will try and blow up God's protection and his love, banner that are (big like maybe a shiny plasma like) domes of light and feathery colors of a prism dance through the domes that over his people, like fire .. his Love like wings over his people who did love him . ( REV 10) (Brett's song "Anymore" how there is no more love in the world ) as Brett songs say all their kinds of love comes to an end!
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