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Old 03-08-2018, 04:42 AM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Au contraire, I give the Spirit ALL the credit.
It doesn't appear that way. You question the prophets and apostles words, do you not?
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Old 03-08-2018, 04:43 AM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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"But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you." ~ Jesus

It just not the Holy Spirit.

They scoff at Jesus for assurances that the disciples will be reminded of everything Jesus said ... not just "what struck them most".
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Old 03-08-2018, 04:46 AM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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You misidentify what is scripture and what are the words of men "written in ink" because you ignore the Comforter, our guide to the Truth God has "written in our hearts."
You say Jesus unambiguously revealed God to us. Then you say this ^^^. Those two statements are not compatible.
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Old 03-08-2018, 04:49 AM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Let me tell you again. I believe in God and I believe in Jesus' promise of the Spirit you may also find there. The difference is that it is confirmed to me by the Spirit as witnessed by the characteristics of that Spirit which you seem not to have encountered. That Spirit and the characteristics of that Spirit contradict some of what is ALSO in the Bible, so I do not accept the Bible AS authority that was promised FOR the Spirit. THAT character is consistent and trustworthy while the Bible is not, as witnessed by all the controversies concerning its meaning which you ignore.
Even if it disagrees with the words of Jesus and His apostles.
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Old 03-08-2018, 04:56 AM
 
Location: Florida
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You say Jesus unambiguously revealed God to us. Then you say this ^^^. Those two statements are not compatible.
Mystics spirit teaches him spiritual secrets which contradict words of Jesus (as written in the Bible), but he won't share with anyone else. He just says it is so.
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Old 03-08-2018, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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It doesn't appear that way. You question the prophets and apostles words, do you not?
I think she questions whether the Spirit confirms those words...as you should.
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Old 03-08-2018, 06:45 AM
 
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I think she questions whether the Spirit confirms those words...as you should.
I think the Spirit already did, with the writer.
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Old 03-08-2018, 06:47 AM
 
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Even if it disagrees with the words of Jesus and His apostles.
Even if it disagrees with the words people have claimed are those of Jesus and the apostles, but which are inconsistent with the character of the Spirit described by Jesus and confirmed by an encounter with that Spirit.
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Old 03-08-2018, 06:49 AM
 
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I think the Spirit already did, with the writer.
because you place your trust in a book rather than the Spirit.
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Old 03-08-2018, 06:51 AM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Even if it disagrees with the words people have claimed are those of Jesus and the apostles, but which are inconsistent with the character of the Spirit described by Jesus and confirmed by an encounter with that Spirit.
You're suggesting you may be more in touch with the Spirit than Peter or John, who walked with Jesus?
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