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Old 03-09-2018, 09:46 AM
 
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So the passage in Psalms teaches us about mercy in the same way that requiring the stoning of certain transgressors does?
It teaches us about how the Israelited felt at the moment.

The Psalm is not an instruction for others, it is a historical note.
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Old 03-09-2018, 09:46 AM
 
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You read all that from 2 words? How about I retract them as so they don’t confuse. The WHOLE Bible is fully inspired by the Holy Spirit.

As part for your damnation I wouldn’t be so flippant about such a thing.
ROFLMAO...

give me a minute before I comment on your judgmental ego.
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Old 03-09-2018, 09:48 AM
 
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Leave room for a higher power of wrath and revenge? Talk about creating a justice system in your own image.
If you read the OT, you will learn the Israelis desired and did many things which were opposed to Gods will. Many things were done to their own image. Why do you think they ended up on Babylon in the first place?
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Old 03-09-2018, 09:50 AM
 
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It was the Israelites cry for revenge, not Gods command. Israelis were humans who felt injustice demanded action.



The Bible teaches this about desiring revenge: "“Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone. If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: ‘It is mine to avenge; I will repay,’ says the Lord.”

The OT teaches us thing about God, things about human nature and history of nation of Israel. This Psalm is about human nature and history of Israel.

You have completely misunderstood the Psalm in question. Rely more on the Spirit of God, and less on Tentmaker.Com, and things will starting make sense.
And yet GOD said-

Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.
To the contrary, “if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals on his head.” Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

I really wish those who see scripture as being infallible would at least understand the truth and share the CORRECT interpretation...
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Old 03-09-2018, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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You read all that from 2 words? How about I retract them as so they don’t confuse. The WHOLE Bible is fully inspired by the Holy Spirit.
Okay, well thanks for the retraction. Perhaps you should have said what you meant the first time around.

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As part for your damnation I wouldn’t be so flippant about such a thing.
I'm not being flippant at all. I'm not worried in the slightest about being damned.
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Old 03-09-2018, 10:06 AM
 
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If you read the OT, you will learn the Israelis desired and did many things which were opposed to Gods will. Many things were done to their own image. Why do you think they ended up on Babylon in the first place?
Well, yes, Finn. I've been saying all along that the Old Testament is a record of the growing awareness in one ethnic group concerning the nature and requirements of God in a particularly vicious time and place.
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Old 03-09-2018, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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And yet GOD said-

Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.
To the contrary, “if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals on his head.” Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

I really wish those who see scripture as being infallible would at least understand the truth and share the CORRECT interpretation...
Finn already pointed that out, in post #114. Keep up.
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Old 03-09-2018, 10:09 AM
 
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And yet GOD said-

Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.
To the contrary, “if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals on his head.” Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

I really wish those who see scripture as being infallible would at least understand the truth and share the CORRECT interpretation...
And in Romans "Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay," says the Lord."

Do not take matters in your own hand. Leave it to God.

Why is this so confusing?
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Old 03-09-2018, 10:16 AM
 
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Well, yes, Finn. I've been saying all along that the Old Testament is a record of the growing awareness in one ethnic group concerning the nature and requirements of God in a particularly vicious time and place.
If you knew that, then why are you trying portray a historical event (or emotions of people) as a "teaching/command from God"?
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Old 03-09-2018, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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It was the Israelites cry for revenge, not Gods command. Israelis were humans who felt injustice demanded action.



The Bible teaches this about desiring revenge: "“Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone. If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: ‘It is mine to avenge; I will repay,’ says the Lord.”

The OT teaches us thing about God, things about human nature and history of nation of Israel. This Psalm is about human nature and history of Israel.

You have completely misunderstood the Psalm in question. Rely more on the Spirit of God, and less on Tentmaker.Com, and things will starting make sense.
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Leave room for a higher power of wrath and revenge?
Talk about creating a justice system in your own image.
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If you read the OT, you will learn the Israelis desired and did many things which were opposed to Gods will. Many things were done to their own image. Why do you think they ended up on Babylon in the first place?
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Well, yes, Finn. I've been saying all along that the Old Testament is a record of the growing awareness in one ethnic group concerning the nature and requirements of God in a particularly vicious time and place.
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If you knew that, then why are you trying portray a historical event (or emotions of people) as a "teaching/command from God"?
Why are you equating the justice of God to that of humanity; and negating the call to come out of her, lest you share in her plagues?
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