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I understand that completely. I am a Christian. Where we differ is that you believe it applies to everyone, when I believe scripture says otherwise.
Paul wrote that God is not holding the sins of the world against them. Where else in his writings does Paul refer to Christians as "the world", jimmie?
I'm not surprised that you've missed the point. All these phrases that you think contradict what Paul said about God not holding the sin of the world against them, actually refer to the blessings of KNOWING the truth that God is not holding our sin against us.
yuppers,
the original sin, the one we are born with, is ignorance. why people can't see that as one of the primary lessons of the cross is beyond me.
the universe self organized and IS quantum computing right now. we are part of that and its way cool to me. Unfortunately some subroutines just don't know they are just that.
I'm not fan of atheism as a world view (I was forced to try that shoe and it didn't fit me), but those "godless bastards" as I've seen them refer to themselves from time to time, and which term I use here with affection, are in a whole lot better place than some unsuspecting victim of evangelical Christianity who is convinced by said Christians that God is holding their sin against them.
God is NOT holding sin against those “in Christ”, as you suggest is taught.
Paul wrote that God is not holding the sins of the world against them. Where else in his writings does Paul refer to Christians as "the world", jimmie?
How many times must I explain this to you? Salvation is available to all (the whole world) who believe, through Christ. See John 3:16.
God is NOT holding sin against those “in Christ”, as you suggest is taught.
Changing words in the bible. Tsk. Isn't that against your religion? Verbatim, " in Christ God was reconciling the world to himself, not counting their trespasses against them".
It's God that was in Christ, reconciling the world to himself, not counting their sin against them.
the original sin, the one we are born with, is ignorance. why people can't see that as one of the primary lessons of the cross is beyond me.
the universe self organized and IS quantum computing right now. we are part of that and its way cool to me. Unfortunately some subroutines just don't know they are just that.
How many times must I explain this to you? Salvation is available to all (the whole world) who believe, through Christ. See John 3:16.
How often must it be explained to you that salvation has nada to do with escaping hell or God holding our sin against us. I'm pretty sure you've never provided a scripture verse that says it does.
I agree it has some wonderfully poetic language and thought-provoking passages.
And I woulda' got the chopped baby reference too from my indoctrination into Catholicism.
Some of the Psalms are beautiful poetry. Not the dashing-baby-heads or killing-enemies ones, but others that seem written out of the pure joy of living. It helps to look at things separately and not as one big glom, like "The Psalms" or "The Bible".
Some of the Psalms are beautiful poetry. Not the dashing-baby-heads or killing-enemies ones, but others that seem written out of the pure joy of living. It helps to look at things separately and not as one big glom, like "The Psalms" or "The Bible".
It does help, for sure. I always appreciated the Lutheran hymnal for the Psalms put to music.
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