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No one is disputing that life in Christ is abundant. Different subject.
I'm not surprised that you've missed the point. All these phrases that you think contradict what Paul said about God not holding the sin of the world against them, actually refer to the blessings of KNOWING the truth that God is not holding our sin against us.
It also has lots of catchy sayings that have become part of the English lexicon in some form and that non-religious people use without realizing their origin.
I once heard a guy in a meeting say "what we'll have to do is cut the baby in half". Some people looked startled at the expression, but I knew what he meant cuz I went to Sunday School.
I agree it has some wonderfully poetic language and thought-provoking passages.
And I woulda' got the chopped baby reference too from my indoctrination into Catholicism.
Are you saying no other scriptures refute Universalism or do you just not believe those passages or something else? I have shown you what I believe that passage means and backed it up with other passages on the same subject.
The Nature and Character of God expressed through Jesus Christ is so far removed from the god that sits in the temple of the heart of man deceiving them into opposing the Nature and Character of God that He expressed it is untrue.
Jesus Christ is the exact representation of ALL that God IS. Hebrews 1:3 What does this mean? God through his son made known to us all that he is.
Another scripture
The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. Does this luntatic god that needs to punish the sinner instead of healing the sympton fit into any of those attributes ?.
I'm not surprised that you've missed the point. All these phrases that you think contradict what Paul said about God not holding the sin of the world against them, actually refer to the blessings of KNOWING the truth that God is not holding our sin against us.
I'm not fan of atheism as a world view (I was forced to try that shoe and it didn't fit me), but those "godless bastards" as I've seen them refer to themselves from time to time, and which term I use here with affection, are in a whole lot better place than some unsuspecting victim of evangelical Christianity who is convinced by said Christians that God is holding their sin against them.
I'm not surprised that you've missed the point. All these phrases that you think contradict what Paul said about God not holding the sin of the world against them, actually refer to the blessings of KNOWING the truth that God is not holding our sin against us.
I understand that completely. I am a Christian. Where we differ is that you believe it applies to everyone, when I believe scripture says otherwise.
Holy doesn't mean "morally pure". It means set aside, different from everything else (when applied to God.
When applied to everything else, it means set aside for God). There was no word to indicate "extra-special holy", so they repeat the word for emphasis.
The Nature and Character of God expressed through Jesus Christ is so far removed from the god that sits in the temple of the heart of man deceiving them into opposing the Nature and Character of God that He expressed it is untrue.
Jesus Christ is the exact representation of ALL that God IS. Hebrews 1:3 What does this mean? God through his son made known to us all that he is.
Another scripture
The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. Does this luntatic god that needs to punish the sinner instead of healing the sympton fit into any of those attributes ?.
Can't rep you, as usual, but have I mentioned lately how much I love your posts?
No, you need to realize that the passage simply says that God is not holding the sin of THE WORLD against them. And then of course the bible also says that God is love, and that love keeps no record of wrongs.
Well, I quoted what it says. Feel free to reject it.
The Nature and Character of God expressed through Jesus Christ is so far removed from the god that sits in the temple of the heart of man deceiving them into opposing the Nature and Character of God that He expressed it is untrue.
Jesus Christ is the exact representation of ALL that God IS. Hebrews 1:3 What does this mean? God through his son made known to us all that he is.
Another scripture
The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. Does this luntatic god that needs to punish the sinner instead of healing the sympton fit into any of those attributes ?.
Will God force redemption on those who reject Him? Scripture indicates no.
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