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No--all the aspects of Revelation had to be in place. I have been sharing with all, Rev 13 has been occurring for many years and still. its way past that basically.
At Rev 6 the ride of the white horse= righteous war-- the war in heaven began that ride--Michael took that ride, yet receives the crown promised to Jesus, and as well The war in heaven( satan booted out forever) I believe was the bruising of his head, foretold in genesis to be done by Jesus. That ride is still going on--leading the advancement of the good news of Gods kingdom-- That kingdom rule comes to earth fully at Har-mageddon. Where Jesus is the rider of the white horse. Its the same ride that began at the war in heaven. Ends with Gods kingdom ruling all of creation( Daniel 2:44) And Jesus hands back the kingdom to his God( 1Corinthians 15:24-28) and Father and subjects himself)---- forever. Because he is Michael--The real reason upon his return( 1Thess 4:16) he comes with the voice of the archangel,) Its his voice.
The real reason he teaches he has a God-his Father-John 20:17, Rev 3:12
What is the subject of this thread? To challenge the teachings of a religion?
I think he summed it up in his OP--he wants to know the explanation for the apparent false prophecies. I think it's worth asking. You and others are much more harsh to many other Christians regarding things you disagree with. Every other thread around here seems to be attacking anyone that believes in the Trinity or Hell.
I am getting back to the thread subject. In terms of classification as a cult perhaps by virtue of seeking to keep the followers within the fold, it doesn't seem that the JW are more in that situation than other groups. And of course the JW have features that resemble the Catholic Church as well (central ideological control).
Other aspects such as secrecy seemed to be more prevalent among the Mormons who have secret rituals and who don't even reveal financial records for tithing to their members.
Perhaps a better description of JW is "eccentric." That seems to me to be more appropriate. Perhaps even "very eccentric." It seems to me it would be awfully difficult to describe a sect composed of millions of people worldwide as a cult which corresponds to Branch Davidians or some Far Eastern neo-Hindu sect. Thus my tentative view is that the hostility towards the JW more than other groups is probably exaggerated and overblown, even if they are very eccentric. ;-)
I have read alot of negative stuff online and on videos about the Jehovah's Witnesses, but I think it's fair to be able to hear the side of the story, specifically in terms of the teachings and leadership of Charles Russell, Joseph Rutherford and Nathan Knorr, and how the JW refute the accusations, including the issues of the unfulfilled predictions over the past century (1874, 1914, 1975) and have been affected by this. Unfortunately it is difficult finding their specific refutations online.
Thanks.
It is better to ignore something, rather than be embarrassed by it.
Especially, if the dates were derived from a form of pyramidology?
I am getting back to the thread subject. In terms of classification as a cult perhaps by virtue of seeking to keep the followers within the fold, it doesn't seem that the JW are more in that situation than other groups. And of course the JW have features that resemble the Catholic Church as well (central ideological control).
Other aspects such as secrecy seemed to be more prevalent among the Mormons who have secret rituals and who don't even reveal financial records for tithing to their members.
Perhaps a better description of JW is "eccentric." That seems to me to be more appropriate. Perhaps even "very eccentric." It seems to me it would be awfully difficult to describe a sect composed of millions of people worldwide as a cult which corresponds to Branch Davidians or some Far Eastern neo-Hindu sect. Thus my tentative view is that the hostility towards the JW more than other groups is probably exaggerated and overblown, even if they are very eccentric. ;-)
Not Eccentric--No part of this world as Jesus taught us to be.
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