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I may be radically changing the topic. But for me it was an earthquake of a paradigm shift that perhaps scares fundentalsists, namely, the Bible is not absolutely right about everything. Or we are not right in how we have understood the Bible. For people who love the Bible and make it their absolute authority ( despite all the competing denominational interpretations and individual ones ) they take solace in it. I love the Bible, believe it's the inspired Word of God. Believe it is useful in teaching about God and morality. I believe it transmits the message of God perfectly. Yet, I don't believe every statement in it is 100 percent correct in the sense that many hold. So perhaps when we assert what we assert that people are single out one group of sinners for sharper rebuke over other sinners, it shatters their worldview. Maybe Christians are not being merciful and bringing grace to others with their attitudes. That news needs to be denied . Fanatacism is just overcompensated doubt
God is not punishing you, your body has changed over thousands of years and now this is what you are.
A thousand years ago, you married somebody and had a new you, and it has evolved each time there was a new you, it's humanity, the human condition, fact is, you are dying, we are all dying.
I may be radically changing the topic. But for me it was an earthquake of a paradigm shift that perhaps scares fundentalsists, namely, the Bible is not absolutely right about everything. Or we are not right in how we have understood the Bible. For people who love the Bible and make it their absolute authority ( despite all the competing denominational interpretations and individual ones ) they take solace in it. I love the Bible, believe it's the inspired Word of God. Believe it is useful in teaching about God and morality. I believe it transmits the message of God perfectly. Yet, I don't believe every statement in it is 100 percent correct in the sense that many hold. So perhaps when we assert what we assert that people are single out one group of sinners for sharper rebuke over other sinners, it shatters their worldview. Maybe Christians are not being merciful and bringing grace to others with their attitudes. That news needs to be denied . Fanatacism is just overcompensated doubt
I have no problem holding to the complete authenticity of the bible in that God is big enough to have the bible He wants me to have in my hands. However, the supreme one whom the bible points us to existed in his fullness before a single scripture was carved in a tablet or written on a scroll. He is supreme over the scripture.
The scripture is deeper than our human minds can comprehend. I hold its truth in extreme awe and revere it, but I do not worship it. I cannot begin to understand its complexity in full, but I can know the one whom it points to. The gospel is in the whole book from start to finish, whether it is documenting an ancient people and their foibles or prophesying what is to come. I know God can speak to me through any of it. I can go online and see dozens and dozens of different translations to strain gnats if need be.
My main beef with Christians and the bible is formulating a doctrine first and then finding proof texts to back that up. I continually work to divorce my own prejudice from what it is saying. It is a lifetime exercise and should be for all.
The problem is man and his interpretation of it. That is definitely NOT infallible. Why the scripture in the hand of one not led by the Spirit can bludgeon. At the very heart of why we are here on this thread discussing.
Great post once again, glad you are here.
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I have no problem holding to the complete authenticity of the bible in that God is big enough to have the bible He wants me to have in my hands. However, the supreme one whom the bible points us to existed in his fullness before a single scripture was carved in a tablet or written on a scroll. He is supreme over the scripture.
The scripture is deeper than our human minds can comprehend. I hold its truth in extreme awe and revere it, but I do not worship it. I cannot begin to understand its complexity in full, but I can know the one whom it points to. The gospel is in the whole book from start to finish, whether it is documenting an ancient people and their foibles or prophesying what is to come. I know God can speak to me through any of it. I can go online and see dozens and dozens of different translations to strain gnats if need be.
My main beef with Christians and the bible is formulating a doctrine first and then finding proof texts to back that up. I continually work to divorce my own prejudice from what it is saying. It is a lifetime exercise and should be for all.
The problem is man and his interpretation of it. That is definitely NOT infallible. Why the scripture in the hand of one not led by the Spirit can bludgeon. At the very heart of why we are here on this thread discussing.
Great post once again, glad you are here.
Thanks. Fundamentalist have it backwards. They think the Bible came first and then the Church and then doctrine. When the Church then liturgy then the Bible. That is there error and the beginning of holding the bible as their absolute authority.
Thanks. Fundamentalist have it backwards. They think the Bible came first and then the Church and then doctrine. When the Church then liturgy then the Bible. That is there error and the beginning of holding the bible as their absolute authority.
Who believes that? I don't know anyone that thinks that.
Thanks. Fundamentalist have it backwards. They think the Bible came first and then the Church and then doctrine. When the Church then liturgy then the Bible. That is there error and the beginning of holding the bible as their absolute authority.
They do? I am beginning to think I have never actually met a fundamantalist, except the atheist type (like some here).
They do? I am beginning to think I have never actually met a fundamantalist, except the atheist type, like some here.
I think they've made up this class they call "Fundie". It has nothing to do with reality. I think they're like unicorns, or the tooth fairy. Just figments of their imagination.
Who believes that? I don't know anyone that thinks that.
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They do? I am beginning to think I have never actually met a fundamantalist, except the atheist type, like some here.
Here is your big flaw guys. Again taking literally when the meaning is clear in a word picture. He obviously meant in importance, what one weighs as most important, then secondary to that, then third, etc. Not on a chronological timeline, but comparing the weight you give each to a chronological timeline.
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