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Although there is some hate coming from Christians toward those who are homosexual, God is no pleased with hate towards any group of people. It is not hard to disagree with the other side in a loving manner, or at least in a non hositle manner.
This is not a one way street. IMO there is more hate coming from the LGBTQ community towards Christians than hate coming from Christians towards the homosexual community. Some this hate comes from those who are not homosexuals.
Absolutely right. We even let this thread die down again, letting the opposition get their way and have a last shot at us. But no, they had to keep on with the trash talk against us today. Maybe it's best to just leave it alone and let it become a full blown fundamentalist bashing thread. I sure doubt it will convince anyone sitting on the fence that they are on the side of love, tolerance and truth though.
Actually, it is true. But we are not talking about all Christians, merely the fundamentalist subset within Christianism. If, that shoe fits on your foot, wear it. If it doesn't, then stop acting like it fits you perfectly. Discrimination is discrimination, it doesn't matter how you dress it up to appear otherwise.
Discrimination is not discrimination. That's just pedestal posturing rhetoric not based in reality. Discrimination in the sense of trying someone as sub-human or 2nd class is wrong, sure, but your side wants to take it to extremes to mean you get your way every way every where. Real world doesn't work that way. If it did then you wouldn't see restaurants being allowed to turn people away because of a dress code or clubs turning people away. Or an employer may not want to hire you if you are covered with tattoos. The list goes on and on.
Absolutely right. We even let this thread die down again, letting the opposition get their way and have a last shot at us. But no, they had to keep on with the trash talk against us today. Maybe it's best to just leave it alone and let it become a full blown fundamentalist bashing thread. I sure doubt it will convince anyone sitting on the fence that they are on the side of love, tolerance and truth though.
I see, you enjoy putting on the shoe that fits you, and are persistent in your desire to wear it.
Discrimination is not discrimination. That's just pedestal posturing rhetoric not based in reality. Discrimination in the sense of trying someone as sub-human or 2nd class is wrong, sure, but your side wants to take it to extremes to mean you get your way every way every where. Real world doesn't work that way. If it did then you wouldn't see restaurants being allowed to turn people away because of a dress code or clubs turning people away. Or an employer may not want to hire you if you are covered with tattoos. The list goes on and on.
Tell us what every way and every where is? Do you wish to buy a cake whenever you go to a cake store? So do our homosexual friends.
Rules against improper dress or tattoos apply to EVERYONE without exception. Your “side” wants the ability to discriminate against certain sexual practices that you won’t apply to everyone just those that occur in a homosexual relationship.
That’s bigotry no matter how much you may wish it weren’t and no matter how you try to justify it with your biblolatry. You aren’t innocent. Your very thoughts are an abomination to humanity.
Get over yourself, or better yet, discover who you really are and live it openly.
"As a religious and political movement, fundamentalists have defined themselves as a party of opposition, rather than of love, grace and mercy."
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Not true. It is people like you who have defined us that way.
Fundamentalism is a completely religious movement, not a political one. We are opposed to homosexual conduct, not to the homosexuals, because of what God says about it. Opposition can be expressed without any hostility. We saw that in the case of the Bakery on the West cost. They would and did make other kinds of cakes for homosexual but not a wedding cake. There was a lot of hostility directed towards the owners for their decision. So don't try to put all of the hostility on Christians.
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Originally Posted by Jerwade
Actually, it is true. But we are not talking about all Christians, merely the fundamentalist subset within Christianism. If, that shoe fits on your foot, wear it. If it doesn't, then stop acting like it fits you perfectly. Discrimination is discrimination, it doesn't matter how you dress it up to appear otherwise.
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Originally Posted by jeffbase40
Discrimination is not discrimination. That's just pedestal posturing rhetoric not based in reality. Discrimination in the sense of trying someone as sub-human or 2nd class is wrong, sure, but your side wants to take it to extremes to mean you get your way every way every where. Real world doesn't work that way. If it did then you wouldn't see restaurants being allowed to turn people away because of a dress code or clubs turning people away. Or an employer may not want to hire you if you are covered with tattoos. The list goes on and on.
The only one who is not facing reality would be you, and your comparisons are not even close to that of discriminating against an individual because of their sexual orientation. There is a huge difference between that of a dress code. Or, you comparing them to pedophiles.
Discrimination is not discrimination. That's just pedestal posturing rhetoric not based in reality. Discrimination in the sense of trying someone as sub-human or 2nd class is wrong, sure, but your side wants to take it to extremes to mean you get your way every way every where. Real world doesn't work that way. If it did then you wouldn't see restaurants being allowed to turn people away because of a dress code or clubs turning people away. Or an employer may not want to hire you if you are covered with tattoos. The list goes on and on.
Your prejudice against a class of people that is protected against discrimination in many places because of a clear and egregious history of such discrimination is openly expressed in your excuses for that discrimination. The honest and appropriate response to being caught in prejudice would be to examine the root and practice of that prejudice, not to try to excuse or justify it. You refuse to do so. That is known as bigotry.
just dropping by to wish everyone a happy Thanksgiving! and i would like to throw out a suggestion for everyone here: instead of castigating and rebuking one other this coming Christmas season (and dare i suggest even beyond), why not extend the proverbial olive branch toward one another and focus on the reason we celebrate this time of year: Jesus Christ. the author and finisher of our faith is not at all honored or glorified when we continually berate and chide one another so why not put aside differences, if only for a few weeks, and set our eyes upon the One who is our complete salvation. extending love and peace to everyone here....may God richly bless each and every one of you this season and always!
Your prejudice against a class of people that is protected against discrimination in many places because of a clear and egregious history of such discrimination is openly expressed in your excuses for that discrimination. The honest and appropriate response to being caught in prejudice would be to examine the root and practice of that prejudice, not to try to excuse or justify it. You refuse to do so. That is known as bigotry.
Bigotry = intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.
You clearly cannot tolerate certain views (biblical news) here, so what does that make you?
Bigotry = intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.
You clearly cannot tolerate certain views (biblical news) here, so what does that make you?
You REALLY like the idea that that is all there is to "bigotry" don't you?it supports the idea that your bigotry is just a difference of opinion and really has nothing to do with causing real harm to reall people. Like the rest of your imagining it just won't fly: prejudice expressed causes real harm.
Bigotry = intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.
You clearly cannot tolerate certain views (biblical news) here, so what does that make you?
It makes him able to separate the wheat from the chaff.
Fundies, like a dog returning to its vomit, gobble down the chaff too.
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