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There are burning pits all over this world from Baba Gurgur, Iraq to Smoking Hills, Canada and more in various places. None can compare to the fire of God which will be joy to some and sorrow to others.
God is love, light and an all consuming fire. The same fire that is the light of paradise to those who love the Lord will be torment to those who hate the Lord. It is both heaven and hell. God doesn't need to create a lake of fire. He is the fire.
You are maybe on the right track that it is the consuming fire of God. The 3 hells, another way to think about this:
So, are you of the belief that the first death is one's 'natural' death that befalls all of us while the second death is total annihilation?
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Originally Posted by EscAlaMike
I don't believe in annihilation. The human soul is immortal by nature.
But you DID refer to 'the second death'. The first death, you say, is prior to the resurrection and the second death, as I think you're saying, is 'the final death'. Now, unless one is resurrected a second time similar to the first time then would this not mean that the second death is a permanent case of 'lights out'? This could be referred to as 'annihilation', could it not?
But you DID refer to 'the second death'. The first death, you say, is prior to the resurrection and the second death, as I think you're saying, is 'the final death'. Now, unless one is resurrected a second time similar to the first time then would this not mean that the second death is a permanent case of 'lights out'? This could be referred to as 'annihilation', could it not?
Why is 'annihilation' seen to be a bad word?
Because he's a Trad. Therefore, it's the human-size air fryer for you, bub, with the timer set for infinity+.
I had read when Sodom & Gomorrah were destroyed, the devestation left many pools of burning sulfur -> appearing as lake(s) of fire. This may be where some of the imagery comes from.
But I don't think anyone will be in the lake of fire forever.
You would be wrong about that (Revelation 20:10).
Or, do you not want me to interpret the use of your word "for ever" according to the English language?
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I had read when Sodom & Gomorrah were destroyed, the devestation left many pools of burning sulfur -> appearing as lake(s) of fire. This may be where some of the imagery comes from.
But I don't think anyone will be in the lake of fire forever.
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Originally Posted by justbyfaith
You would be wrong about that (Revelation 20:10).
Or, do you not want me to interpret the use of your word "for ever" according to the English language?
This may come as 'another revelation' to you, jbf, but the Bible was not written in the English language . Moreover, some words, such as 'everlasting' or 'for ever' don't translate from Greek to English as accurately as you might like them to.
But you DID refer to 'the second death'. The first death, you say, is prior to the resurrection and the second death, as I think you're saying, is 'the final death'. Now, unless one is resurrected a second time similar to the first time then would this not mean that the second death is a permanent case of 'lights out'? This could be referred to as 'annihilation', could it not?
Why is 'annihilation' seen to be a bad word?
I was just using the words that Scripture uses.
"Annihilationism" denies that the soul is immortal. It has never been formally condemned as a heresy by name as far as I am aware, but its implications are clearly heretical.
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