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Old 10-13-2008, 11:05 AM
 
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I am not but you should be more clear. O-M-? is very commonly used in the internet forums. when you use that, it has the appearance. As Christians we must always guard ourselves because there are atheists, non-believers even immature Christians who come into this room
Ahh but you went ahead and made the assumption first without asking didn't you? In fact.. your first reaction was:

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That's blasphemy dude!
I bet that felt good to put in bold too. What no apology from you for your mistake? I'll be waiting.. cause.. you know as Christians we must always guard ourselves from being too prideful to apologize. Don't you think?

OMGURSAFT
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Old 10-13-2008, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, North Carolina
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still waiting on the feedback of Obama's birth certificate Youtube video.

It shows the copy that FactCheck has...and that it was false.

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Old 10-13-2008, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, North Carolina
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All from the Annenberg Foundation

You're right...we shouldnt think they would be biased against Obama since he worked there AND still has friends there.

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See!! Now we are getting somewhere!

Yes Obama was on the board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge.

Now. Please do tell us about the Chicago Annenberg Challenge.

Let me know if you want some help. I have the links just ready to go!!
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Old 10-13-2008, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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The reason why we Christians are concerned about abortion and homosexuality is that they are moral issues. Would you state that same thing to German Christians trying to stop the Germany from murdering the Jews??????????
Abortion speaks for itself and it KILLS me that a "Christian" could actually be pro-choice, because it is obvious they don't read from the same bible I do.

Homosexuality is a sin but more so, though out history we have seen what the acceptance of homosexuality does to the moral fiber of a society from children,women to family structure.

Furthermore once homosexuality becomes truly accepted then they will be treated no different than anybody else which is not always a good thing. Two homosexuals want to get married so they go to a church. What is the pastor to do if he sticks by his bible?

He politely turns down the couple, but wait! civil rights have been violated on the basis of discrimination. A potential lawsuit.

Do not fool yourself that homosexuality is harmless and does not really affect the church.

We as Christians should vote but we are not to be consumed in worldly problems such as the economy, environment etc.... we are to set our affections on high and understand this is the devil's world run by the devil's system. Obama nor McCain are neither men of God and we understand that.

All we could do is vote for the lesser of two evils and pray for whoever that world leader might be.
If I thought there was ANY chance electing McCain would see something done to stop abortions or the spread of homosexuality, I would vote for McCain. However, after 8 years of Bush, who was supposedly a "man of God", abortions are still legal, sodomy has been decriminalized and several states now allow gay marriage. In fact for 20 out of the past 28 years have had pro-life Presidents and nothing has been done about it. I personally don't think Republicans will ever seriously do anything about abortion because they would lose a huge portion of their backing.

I still may vote for McCain anyways as I am currently undecided, but to call McCain the more Christian candidate is just wrong.
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Old 10-13-2008, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, North Carolina
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wow imagine if Bush wasn't around then how WORSE it would be?
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Old 10-13-2008, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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All I am saying is I am not voting how James Dobson or David Barton tell me. I am going to pray and do soul searching and then decide how to vote. I probably will not have made up my mind until I go to vote on election day.
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Old 10-13-2008, 11:35 AM
 
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All from the Annenberg Foundation

You're right...we shouldnt think they would be biased against Obama since he worked there AND still has friends there.
No. Not all from the Annenberg Foundation.

Since you failed to provide the information (my guess is you know how blatantly wrong you are) here it is:

Obama was on the board of Chicago Annenberg Challenge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The CAC was funded from the Annenberg foundation. The CAC was on of 18 projects funded by the Annenberg foundation.

So Obama didn't work for the Annenberg foundation. He worked for the CAC which was created from a grant from the Annenberg Foundation.

Using your line of reasoning any state employee that works for a state that receives Federal funds is a federal employee.

Sorry it doesn't work that way.

Additionally:

Arnold Weber was on the CAC board too. Why is that important? Its not really other than to continue to prove you wrong. Weber served under Nixon and Reagan (those two guys were republicans if you didn't know). Weber has given $1,500 to the McCain campaign.

So your "debunking" of Factcheck.org.....

is well "debunked".

Now once you admit that Factcheck.org hasn't been debunked we can then move on to:

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still waiting on the feedback of Obama's birth certificate Youtube video.

It shows the copy that FactCheck has...and that it was false.

Because honestly.. how can I continue a conversation with someone if they don't admit they were wrong?
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Old 10-13-2008, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Mississippi
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All I am saying is I am not voting how James Dobson or David Barton tell me. I am going to pray and do soul searching and then decide how to vote. I probably will not have made up my mind until I go to vote on election day.
I think you should do an "Eenie Meenie Miney Mo" at the voting booth. That's what I would do if I couldn't decide. Make sure you say it loud enough for everyone else to hear you too. It'll add some well needed humor to the situation.
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Old 10-13-2008, 11:43 AM
 
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Ahh who am I kidding..

Obama's birth certificate:

1. PolitiFact | Obama's birth certificate: Final chapter

"There is not one shred of evidence to disprove PolitiFact’s conclusion that the candidate’s name is Barack Hussein Obama, or to support allegations that the birth certificate he released isn’t authentic."

2. Barack Obama's birth certificate revealed here | Top of the Ticket | Los Angeles Times

3. FactCheck.org: Born in the U.S.A. (I know you don't like factcheck.org but since I proved you wrong earlier I thought you might like it)

4. snopes.com: Barack Obama Birth Certificate (Even snopes says you are wrong)

Anything else? Any Barack Obama kicks kittens type of stories you wish to throw out there?
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Old 10-13-2008, 11:46 AM
 
Location: among the chaos
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I think you should do an "Eenie Meenie Miney Mo" at the voting booth. That's what I would do if I couldn't decide. Make sure you say it loud enough for everyone else to hear you too. It'll add some well needed humor to the situation.
This is funny, Troop. I think I'm going to take one of those really big fuzzy dice and roll it. Or maybe just toss a coin and yell, 'heads or tails'. Or maybe it should be, 'elephants or asses'. Either way, we'll be getting in it deep without our boots.
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