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Some notes:
"When he set foot on that sandy beach in the Bahamas on October 12, 1492, Columbus discovered that the islands were inhabited by friendly, peaceful people called the Lucayans, TaÃnos and Arawaks. Writing in his diary, Columbus said they were a handsome, smart and kind people. He noted that the gentle Arawaks were remarkable for their hospitality. "They offered to share with anyone and when you ask for something, they never say no," he said. The Arawaks had no weapons; their society had neither criminals, prisons nor prisoners. They were so kind-hearted that Columbus noted in his diary that on the day the Santa Maria was shipwrecked, the Arawaks labored for hours to save his crew and cargo. The native people were so honest that not one thing was missing.Columbus was so impressed with the hard work of these gentle islanders, that he immediately seized their land for Spain and enslaved them to work in his brutal gold mines. Within only two years, 125,000 (half of the population) of the original natives on the island were dead.If I were a Native American, I would mark October 12, 1492, as a black day on my calendar.Shockingly, Columbus supervised the selling of native girls into sexual slavery. Young girls of the ages 9 to 10 were the most desired by his men. In 1500, Columbus casually wrote about it in his log. He said: "A hundred castellanoes are as easily obtained for a woman as for a farm, and it is very general and there are plenty of dealers who go about looking for girls; those from nine to ten are now in demand."He forced these peaceful natives work in his gold mines until they died of exhaustion. If an "Indian" worker did not deliver his full quota of gold dust by Columbus' deadline, soldiers would cut off the man's hands and tie them around his neck to send a message. Slavery was so intolerable for these sweet, gentle island people that at one point, 100 of them committed mass suicide. Catholic law forbade the enslavement of Christians, but Columbus solved this problem. He simply refused to baptize the native people of Hispaniola.
Some notes:
"When he set foot on that sandy beach in the Bahamas on October 12, 1492, Columbus discovered that the islands were inhabited by friendly, peaceful people called the Lucayans, TaÃnos and Arawaks. Writing in his diary, Columbus said they were a handsome, smart and kind people. He noted that the gentle Arawaks were remarkable for their hospitality. "They offered to share with anyone and when you ask for something, they never say no," he said. The Arawaks had no weapons; their society had neither criminals, prisons nor prisoners. They were so kind-hearted that Columbus noted in his diary that on the day the Santa Maria was shipwrecked, the Arawaks labored for hours to save his crew and cargo. The native people were so honest that not one thing was missing.Columbus was so impressed with the hard work of these gentle islanders, that he immediately seized their land for Spain and enslaved them to work in his brutal gold mines. Within only two years, 125,000 (half of the population) of the original natives on the island were dead.If I were a Native American, I would mark October 12, 1492, as a black day on my calendar.Shockingly, Columbus supervised the selling of native girls into sexual slavery. Young girls of the ages 9 to 10 were the most desired by his men. In 1500, Columbus casually wrote about it in his log. He said: "A hundred castellanoes are as easily obtained for a woman as for a farm, and it is very general and there are plenty of dealers who go about looking for girls; those from nine to ten are now in demand."He forced these peaceful natives work in his gold mines until they died of exhaustion. If an "Indian" worker did not deliver his full quota of gold dust by Columbus' deadline, soldiers would cut off the man's hands and tie them around his neck to send a message. Slavery was so intolerable for these sweet, gentle island people that at one point, 100 of them committed mass suicide. Catholic law forbade the enslavement of Christians, but Columbus solved this problem. He simply refused to baptize the native people of Hispaniola.
this is what i teach my kids, i dont let them get fooled by the school system. we need to teach our kids the truth of history.
the truth of history? from a journalist? There are good historians in the USA, you may better give a book from one of this historians to your kids instead of this sensationalist article.
Why didn't Jesus (or the Jewish God for that matter) reveal himself to the Indians - or to other indigenous peoples in Australia, Africa, Asia?
Did the Indians that died before white people came all go to Hell?
I am no expert on this, but I have asked people similar questions.
Apparently, according to Scripture (I'm going on here-say, since I have not read it myself), that God has made a provision for everyone to be saved. If you did not have the opportunity to accept Jesus as your savior before you died, apparently, you are going to get a chance after he returns. That way all the billions of people who died before he was born are not automatically have to spend eternity in hell.
I haven't read any of the posts in this thread. But the thread title kept gnawing at me until I feel I need to respond to it - if not to any posts which follow. If someone vouchsafed a similar explanation, I apologize for muddying their water:
Jesus didn't talk to native americans or any other indigenous peoples because he didn't need to.
Why didn't Jesus (or the Jewish God for that matter) reveal himself to the Indians - or to other indigenous peoples in Australia, Africa, Asia?
How do you know the Creator did not reveal Himself? If anything, perhaps we will discover that they are among those who have been given a greater clarity.
peace,
sparrow
Another thing I'd like t point out is that there is a diversity of beliefs between and among various tribes.
You hear people saying things like "Indians (or Native Americans) believe in the Great Spirit" or that they "believe the earth is on a mound of dirt a giant turtle carries on its back" or "This is how you say 'hello' in Indian" and so on...
As if the indigenous peoples of this continent were all of one hive mind or something.
There are many tribes, many histories, many creation stories, many myths and legends, many linguistic families.
It's not as if all Native Americans are one homogenous culture.
I totally appreciate your post, but particularly the bold part because there is no longer any such thing as a "Native Indian", only those who descended from those who were natives of the Americas when the Europeans arrived and they have, to a large extent "mingled their blood together". I for one was born of a father whose roots were Irish, but from my mother there was a good dose of Cherokee. So where does that leave me? I think it is obvious that largely what humans argue and fight over is the question "Who Am I" ? and "Who Are We". I also think that deliverance can only be had by realizing that we are all ONE, though we are manifold, or a manifestation of One God. I guess I would fight over Mono-theism, then, because there can only be One true God in my perspective, who has many children.
We are led by the spirit of the creator, i believe he reveiled himself in creation of mother earth, the heavens the four legged and many more, the white man cannot understand this way of belief because it is not in a book, you have to be open minded and have faith in the power of our creator
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