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Old 05-21-2016, 11:28 AM
 
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Why didn't Jesus (or the Jewish God for that matter) reveal himself to the Indians - or to other indigenous peoples in Australia, Africa, Asia?

Did the Indians that died before white people came all go to Hell?

Whose to say He didn't? I don't remember the tribe but do remember reading an account of missionaries somewhere who said when they found this tribe they were amazed at the purest form of Christian worship they had ever seen. Once they learned their language, they asked them who taught them to do that? And the Indians told them a white man appeared to them and taught them, and then disappeared.


Also; if you can get ahold of a book about the Ghost Dance religion and the Great Sioux uprising, you can see that the Great Spirit DID contact them and among other things, warned them to be compliant with the whites that were coming so they could stay alive. Peace
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Old 05-21-2016, 02:42 PM
 
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Why didn't Jesus (or the Jewish God for that matter) reveal himself to the Indians - or to other indigenous peoples in Australia, Africa, Asia?

Did the Indians that died before white people came all go to Hell?

Dear aust,
Do you guys even get out? The whole Book of Mormon is based on a Jewish migration to the Americas sometime after Babylon, and even includes a visit from Yeshua after the crucifixion.

As for who is thrown into the "lake of fire", that is based on who was written in the book of life from the foundation of the world (Rev 20:12 & Rev 13:8). They are judged by their deeds, which are written in that the book of life. "And they were judged, everyone of them according to their deeds". Paul's worthless babel, and doublespeak, will get no one, no where. Those not written in the book of life, will worship the beast, which was the 5th head of the beast, and they will carry the mark of the 7th head of the beast (Rev 13:17), who also happened to be the "beast with two horns like a lamb", and those two horns were Peter and Paul, the foundations of the "Christian" church, which is better known as the "adulteress" bought for the equivalence of 30 shekels of silver, per Hosea 3. In the case of Zech 11:7, the "Christian" church is best known as "the flock doomed to slaughter".
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Old 05-21-2016, 04:58 PM
 
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Why didn't Jesus (or the Jewish God for that matter) reveal himself to the Indians - or to other indigenous peoples in Australia, Africa, Asia?
Did the Indians that died before white people came all go to Hell?
First of all, Jesus, as the promised Messiah, only went to the Jewish nation.- Luke 4:43
After 1st-century Christianity ended, then his followers would start to take the message about the good news of God's kingdom government on an international scale as it is now being done today - Matthew 24:14; 28:19-20; Acts 1:8

Didn't righteous Jesus go to hell ? ______Acts 2:27
The Bible's hell is simply mankind's temporary stone-cold grave for the sleeping dead.
Jesus and the old Hebrew Scriptures teach sleep in death:
- John 11:11-14; Psalms 6:5; 13:3; 115:17; 146:4; Daniel 12:2,13; Ecclesiastes 9:5

KJV translated the word Gehenna as hell fire.
Gehenna was just a garbage pit outside of Jerusalem where things were destroyed and Not kept burning forever.
So, Gehenna is a fitting word for: destruction.
The wicked will be destroyed forever - Psalm 92:7 - Not burn forever.
So, the dead who will be resurrected are considered as being in hell ( aka grave ) until resurrected - Revelation 1:18
Only some are resurrected to heaven, and they have a first or earlier resurrection - Revelation 20:6; 5:9-10;2:10
The majority of mankind ( like the Indians ) will have a happy-and-healthy physical resurrection on Earth.
Please notice Revelation 20:13-14 because it says the dead will be ' delivered up ' (KJV) meaning resurrected out of biblical hell, then emptied-out hell is cast vacant into a symbolic ' second death ' for vacated hell.
Under Christ's coming 1,000-year governmental rulership over Earth Jesus will resurrect the dead - John 5:28; Rev. 1:18 - and enemy death will be No more ever again - 1st Corinthians 15:26.
Death will be swallowed up forever - Isaiah 25:8
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Old 05-21-2016, 05:20 PM
 
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First of all, Jesus, as the promised Messiah, only went to the Jewish nation.- Luke 4:43
After 1st-century Christianity ended, then his followers would start to take the message about the good news of God's kingdom government on an international scale as it is now being done today - Matthew 24:14; 28:19-20; Acts 1:8

Didn't righteous Jesus go to hell ? ______Acts 2:27
The Bible's hell is simply mankind's temporary stone-cold grave for the sleeping dead.
Jesus and the old Hebrew Scriptures teach sleep in death:
- John 11:11-14; Psalms 6:5; 13:3; 115:17; 146:4; Daniel 12:2,13; Ecclesiastes 9:5

KJV translated the word Gehenna as hell fire.
Gehenna was just a garbage pit outside of Jerusalem where things were destroyed and Not kept burning forever.
So, Gehenna is a fitting word for: destruction.
The wicked will be destroyed forever - Psalm 92:7 - Not burn forever.
So, the dead who will be resurrected are considered as being in hell ( aka grave ) until resurrected - Revelation 1:18
Only some are resurrected to heaven, and they have a first or earlier resurrection - Revelation 20:6; 5:9-10;2:10
The majority of mankind ( like the Indians ) will have a happy-and-healthy physical resurrection on Earth.
Please notice Revelation 20:13-14 because it says the dead will be ' delivered up ' (KJV) meaning resurrected out of biblical hell, then emptied-out hell is cast vacant into a symbolic ' second death ' for vacated hell.
Under Christ's coming 1,000-year governmental rulership over Earth Jesus will resurrect the dead - John 5:28; Rev. 1:18 - and enemy death will be No more ever again - 1st Corinthians 15:26.
Death will be swallowed up forever - Isaiah 25:8

Dear Matt,
Tell your story to Gog and Magog at the end of the millennium. It may cheer them up before they are destroyed. Death will only be swallowed with respect to "My people" "the whole house of Israel" who "come up out of your graves", and "I will bring you into the land of Israel". The survivors at the beginning of the millennium will be considered cursed if they don't live to be 100. (Is 65:20) All men die for their own sins, regardless of what the false prophet Paul may tell you. Jer 31:30 & Ez 18:20
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Old 05-21-2016, 05:37 PM
 
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Why didn't Jesus (or the Jewish God for that matter) reveal himself to the Indians - or to other indigenous peoples in Australia, Africa, Asia?

Did the Indians that died before white people came all go to Hell?
Because He said "I am not sent but to the lost sheep of the House of Israel." He left the job to the apostle Paul, the apostle of the nations.
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Old 05-21-2016, 05:45 PM
 
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The wicked will be destroyed forever - Psalm 92:7 - Not burn forever.
It is interesting how much you and I agree on. However it seems you never even consider what I say how you are incorrect concerning Psalm 92:7.

Here it is again:

Psa 92:7 The wicked bud like herbage, And all contrivers of lawlessness blossom, But only that they be exterminated until the future,

If you will notice, the Hebrew word "olam" is not used in 92:7. Just the Hebrew word "ad" was used and has to do with the future.

And even if "olam" was used, it would not mean "forever" or "everlasting" or "eternal." If it meant "eternal" then how can "olam va ad" be "for eternity and beyond"? How can you get beyond eternity?

Please let me know you read this so I can know if you are just willingly making this same mistake over and over.
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Old 05-21-2016, 07:32 PM
 
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For the same reason that God chose Israel instead of any other nation at the time. It was his prerogative. Scripture doesn't tell us why God chose Abraham. It just tells us that he did.
"it" doesn't choose anybody any more than the sun chooses on whom to shine.
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Old 05-21-2016, 07:42 PM
 
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They didn't offer Cherokee at the Galilee yeshiva.
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Old 05-21-2016, 08:07 PM
 
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Jesus was nothing but bad news to the First Nations people of North, Central and South America.

His "Word" was a plague that swept through their aeons-old spiritual communities like the white man's smallpox swept through their villages.

The bible = a death knell.

In the New World as it was in the Old.

Christianity was, and in many instances remains, Bad Medicine.
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Old 05-22-2016, 04:35 AM
 
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Boom! Nice TD
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