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Old 07-27-2009, 09:50 AM
 
Location: God's Country
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Where does it say that God desires more than the elect to be saved ?

Its quite evident He didnt desire these to be saved Matt 7:


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It says it in the Bible....1 Timothy 2:3 "This is good and pleases God our Savior, for He wants EVERYONE to be saved and to understand the truth".
John 3:16 "For the God so loved THE WORLD...........

Matt 7 does not say God does not desire all to be saved, but there is only one way to eternal life with God, and only a few decide to follow that path.
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Old 07-27-2009, 09:51 AM
 
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You will know the truth in eternity. So it would be wise to forsake the univeralist lie before it is to late.


So are you telling me I should worry about whether I have the right understanding of the truth? I thought you said I didn't need to worry?

Or maybe I don't have to worry if I believe everything you say is the truth?



Sorry, I will believe the scriptures that say God will have all men to be saved, over people who threaten eternal torture for believing the wrong thing.
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Old 07-27-2009, 09:58 AM
 
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Sorry, I will believe the scriptures that say God will have all men to be saved, over people who threaten eternal torture for believing the wrong thing.

Believe them or ELSE!!!! Yeah, great news.....
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Old 07-27-2009, 09:59 AM
 
Location: New England
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All thes threats of eternal torture , sounds no different to what Saul of Tarsus was doing, dragging folk away who opposed his idea of what was right.

Acts 9

1Meanwhile, Saul was still breathing out murderous threats against the Lord's disciples. He went to the high priest 2and asked him for letters to the synagogues in Damascus, so that if he found any there who belonged to the Way, whether men or women, he might take them as prisoners to Jerusalem. 3As he neared Damascus on his journey, suddenly a light from heaven flashed around him. 4He fell to the ground and heard a voice say to him, "Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?"

"Christian christian why do you slander me"
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Old 07-27-2009, 11:45 AM
 
Location: The A
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It says it in the Bible....1 Timothy 2:3 "This is good and pleases God our Savior, for He wants EVERYONE to be saved and to understand the truth".
John 3:16 "For the God so loved THE WORLD...........

Matt 7 does not say God does not desire all to be saved, but there is only one way to eternal life with God, and only a few decide to follow that path.
God wants everyone of His elect to be saved, that is converted, but not the devil and his seed..this is what God wants for them..matt 25:

41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
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Old 07-27-2009, 12:42 PM
 
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Universalist don't care anything about GOD. They simply enjoy playing games with those who are the Children of GOD. They are all liars.

Having made this point extremely clear, I shall be happy if the unis don't speak to me any more.
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Old 07-27-2009, 12:47 PM
 
Location: NC
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Universalist don't care anything about GOD.
We lift up God and we believe that He accomplishes whatever He purposes to do. He is good, just, righteous, holy, merciful, sovereign, has all power and truth, and He is love. I don't believe that God is a sadist. God bless.
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Old 07-27-2009, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Tucson, Arizona
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We lift up God and we believe that He accomplishes whatever He purposes to do. He is good, just, righteous, holy, merciful, sovereign, has all power and truth, and He is love. I don't believe that God is a sadist. God bless.
Amen Shana. God has a desire to the work of His hands. All is out of Him and by Him and for Him. He is LOVE. His mercy endureth forever. He has a desire to the work of His hands and He will do all that He desires for none can stay His hand. He is far wiser, patient, and loving than any of us can ever imagine. Tho he casts aside for a time he will restore His banished ones. When His judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants will learn righteousness.

Not care about God? He is our every breath, our life.
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Old 07-27-2009, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Somewhere
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God wants everyone of His elect to be saved, that is converted, but not the devil and his seed..this is what God wants for them..matt 25:

41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
Hi Beloved. I'm a universalist and I don't believe that the devil CAN be saved. The Devil is a reference to the collective carnal nature of man in my opinion. It is the dross of the metal that shall be removed in the refiners fire. Is is the filth of the garment that will be removed by fuller's soap.

Paul
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Old 07-27-2009, 01:46 PM
 
Location: New Zealand
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Hi Beloved. I'm a universalist and I don't believe that the devil CAN be saved. The Devil is a reference to the collective carnal nature of man in my opinion. It is the dross of the metal that shall be removed in the refiners fire. Is is the filth of the garment that will be removed by fuller's soap.

Paul
I agree Paul,
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