UC Loses Control of Student Security to Thugs (Cincinnati, Hamilton: apartment complex, house)

[Coseau]

It is up to the students to organize and march down to the mayor's office to demand more police patrols in the area. Until they do that nothing is ever going to change. The squeaky wheel is the wheel that gets the oil. Either keep being passive and keep getting victimized by criminals or march down to city council demanding more police patrols in area.

[Zen_master]

Originally Posted by Wilson513

I suppose we breathed a sigh of relief when the so called 2 Gun gang members were arrested last week. Premature. The victimization of UC students continues unabated. They have become the ATM of choice for the thug element in Cincinnati.

Of course, Santa Ono should resign, but is this problem limited to UC or should the CPD Chief Blackwell be held accountable too.

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you need your head checked. in case you were unaware the university president is more of a figurehead position. he goes around raising publicity and soliciting donations. the university is governed by a board of trustees and many, many other administrators (provosts) of the individual colleges. Ono can only do so much and frankly has been the best thing to happen to UC in a generation. calling for his resignation over street thugs is a ridiculous claim.

there are plenty of good things going on down at UC which the media overlook because it doesn't sell clicks and eyeballs the way sensationalist articles do. while you're piling on Ono, under his administration UC has increased safe transportation options including NightRide UC.

[t45209]

Originally Posted by OHKID

Hilarious! I've been at Miami for a while and I've never heard them called "seekies". I wished people still called them that though, great nickname.

We lamely refer to them as "MUPD". After hearing UD calls theirs "public safety", it did kinda make me wish there was a least a cool nickname for ours...

I'm a little sad to hear this. Another Miami tradition thrown on the ash heap of history. Someone or some organization must have led a campaign against the "seekie" moniker. Hard to believe that as ubiquitous as the usage was that it died a natural death in just 20 years.

[Wilson513]

Rob Braun has a message for UC's new police chief Updated: Friday, October 24 2014, 09:15 PM EDT CINCINNATI (Rob Braun) -- Earlier this week Local 12 told you UC got a new police chief. His name is Jason Goodrich; chief, welcome to town. I want you to know UC is not like most university police chief jobs. Urban schools are a different animal. They present a tougher environment. I hope you're ready. The kids need you. I report often on the crime in and around campus. There is more big city crime here, your criminals will, for the most part, not be enrolled in your school. Your toughest job is making students who come from suburbia understand that yes, they really are at risk of becoming a victim unless they manage that risk. Help them understand that crimes here are committed with guns and fire and needles unlike back home. When I was a student at UC our biggest concern was, 'Could they get the boiler running to take the chill out of the classroom?' Today, it's being robbed at gunpoint on the way back to your apartment. Some of the innocence is lost. To be clear, the campus and its professors are world class. You can actually get through to the president if you wish. We need you, Chief Goodrich, to keep our children safe. Please get started today. Follow Rob Braun on Twitter @nwsman and LIKE him on Facebook

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[guest31]

Cincinnati has always had a problem with crime, not just UC. This is one of the reasons I moved from Oh. They are short handed due to cuts because of the economic crisis. Exacerbating the problem is nobody is choosing law enforcement as a career path because not only can you loose your life, but God forbid a cop get accused of discrimination for doing his/her job because they may never work again. So there's not a whole lot of incentives for folks to want to become a cop. Add the fact that the courts and politicians are more concerned with what penalties will accrue the almighty dollar for them rather than stopping real crime and it's a recipe for disaster. Hamilton Co caters to the criminal element which is why so many are there. Most of them aren't even true Ohioans, but come from other states such as Ky, Ga, La, and MI because Oh laws are laxer than the laws in their home states. Point blank this problem will persist in Hamilton Co, on UC campuses, and pretty much the entire state so long as it continues to promote an environment that caters to criminals. Period.

[Wilson513]

Cincinnati has plenty of officers they just don't have the will to prevent crime. They are trained report takers.

[RustBeltOptimist]

Originally Posted by guest31

Cincinnati has always had a problem with crime, not just UC. This is one of the reasons I moved from Oh. They are short handed due to cuts because of the economic crisis. Exacerbating the problem is nobody is choosing law enforcement as a career path because not only can you loose your life, but God forbid a cop get accused of discrimination for doing his/her job because they may never work again. So there's not a whole lot of incentives for folks to want to become a cop. Add the fact that the courts and politicians are more concerned with what penalties will accrue the almighty dollar for them rather than stopping real crime and it's a recipe for disaster. Hamilton Co caters to the criminal element which is why so many are there. Most of them aren't even true Ohioans, but come from other states such as Ky, Ga, La, and MI because Oh laws are laxer than the laws in their home states. Point blank this problem will persist in Hamilton Co, on UC campuses, and pretty much the entire state so long as it continues to promote an environment that caters to criminals. Period.

Please elaborate on this, do you mean people from Georgia like Paula Deen? She seems racially biased, but I wouldn't call her criminal until she's convicted of something. I guess I'm not sure what would make someone from Kentucky or Michigan more prone to crime than somebody from Ohio? Unless of course you're actually meaning something else and avoiding actually saying it because you know the rest of civilized society rightly sees it as a sign of moral deficiency.

Cincinnati's crime rates are down significantly over the last 20 years, like just about everywhere else in the country, but it's also been dropping out of the lists of most crime per capita, meaning that law enforcement here has seen much more success than cities still on that list like Detroit or Baltimore. Still work to be done, obviously, but there's no reason to think the city's in a stasis when it comes to crime when there's little data to indicate it.

I think the muggings around UC are getting more media attention because they represent a fear of the landed gentry in the suburbs, similar to the attacks at Taste of Cincinnati last year. They don't actually seem to be up statistically. I still feel relatively safe Uptown.

[Natural510]

Originally Posted by RustBeltOptimist

I think the muggings around UC are getting more media attention because they represent a fear of the landed gentry in the suburbs, similar to the attacks at Taste of Cincinnati last year. They don't actually seem to be up statistically. I still feel relatively safe Uptown.

A female student is much more likely to be raped by one of her classmates, but an attempted rape by a stranger screams "That could be my daughter!"

[Wilson513]

Originally Posted by RustBeltOptimist

Please elaborate on this, do you mean people from Georgia like Paula Deen? She seems racially biased, but I wouldn't call her criminal until she's convicted of something. I guess I'm not sure what would make someone from Kentucky or Michigan more prone to crime than somebody from Ohio? Unless of course you're actually meaning something else and avoiding actually saying it because you know the rest of civilized society rightly sees it as a sign of moral deficiency.

I think that what is meant is the correct observation that most violent crime is Cincinnati comes from the African American community, many of whom migrated from the South. It may not be a pleasant topic, but it is indubitably true.

[Natural510]

Originally Posted by Wilson513

I think that what is meant is the very correct observation that most violent crime is Cincinnati comes from the African American community, many of whom migrated from the South. It may not be a pleasant topic, but it is indubitably true.

No, s/he said they're not from Ohio, nothing about the Great Migration.