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Old 09-10-2010, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Lower East Side, Milwaukee, WI
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This is in response to a ninja-deleted post by alleghenyangel. Milwaukee is nearly twice as dense as Pittsburgh. How's that for suburban sprawl?

Population Density per square mile of land area
Milwaukee--Racine, WI CMSA 942.3
Pittsburgh, PA MSA 509.9

United States and Puerto Rico by Metropolitan Area - GCT-PH1. Population, Housing Units, Area, and Density:**2000
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Old 09-10-2010, 08:37 PM
 
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This is in response to a ninja-deleted post by alleghenyangel. Milwaukee is nearly twice as dense as Pittsburgh. How's that for suburban sprawl?

Population Density per square mile of land area
Milwaukee--Racine, WI CMSA 942.3
Pittsburgh, PA MSA 509.9

United States and Puerto Rico by Metropolitan Area - GCT-PH1. Population, Housing Units, Area, and Density:**2000
I was wondering where that post went. I guess alleghenyangel must have looked at the numbers after posting the snarky comment.
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Old 09-10-2010, 10:03 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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In all fairness though Milwaukee has a built in advantage in density in that it is relatively flat so more of the land can be developed. The Pittsburgh area is full of hills that are hard to build on.
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Old 09-10-2010, 10:09 PM
 
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In all fairness though Milwaukee has a built in advantage in density in that it is relatively flat so more of the land can be developed. The Pittsburgh area is full of hills that are hard to build on.
The presence of large hills doesn't seem to have effected SF's density.
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Old 09-10-2010, 11:04 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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It is more expensive to develop hillsides. It is worthwhile do in San Francisco because it has the most exensive housing in the country, less so in more normal cities.
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Old 09-11-2010, 02:03 AM
 
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Well you do have to consider that many metro areas have rural areas as part of it so it would make density seem lower than what it is.
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Old 09-11-2010, 07:40 AM
 
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If the cities were fighters, I'd view Milwaukee as big and hulking, Pittsburgh as quick and more nimble. So technically, Milwaukee is stronger.

Why are y'all arguing? Both cities have their amenities but i do see Pittsburgh rebounding the most over the next 30 years. Just because it isn't there yet doesn't mean it doesn't have the potential.
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Old 09-11-2010, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Lower East Side, Milwaukee, WI
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It is more expensive to develop hillsides. It is worthwhile do in San Francisco because it has the most exensive housing in the country, less so in more normal cities.
Huh? For most of its history, Pittsburgh would have been wealthier than SF. Only in the last 20-30 years has the Bay Area become what it is today. Much of the building stock in both cities dates back at least a century or more, so I guess I don't follow your logic.

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Old 09-11-2010, 07:54 AM
 
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From looking at the typical housing stock, I would say SF is about the same as Pgh. As in s.f. / acre for a typical neighborhood. SF would be more dense in population because residents have to double up and houses get divided because of the expense, in Pgh a family or even a single can afford a home of their own.
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Old 09-11-2010, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Lower East Side, Milwaukee, WI
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Well you do have to consider that many metro areas have rural areas as part of it so it would make density seem lower than what it is.
Are you implying Greater Milwaukee doesn't have rural areas?

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