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What, yet another OCD post by Kidphilly to prove to us how Philadelphia is the #4 city based on whatever metric he came up with plus whining about the US Census again? What is this, a day that ends in "Y"?
well I believe I am using census metrics, maybe they pulled them out of thr clear air...
Here's another list for the 2,000 Census...the new estimates are just that....someone's estimates...who may or may not have certain prejudices while interpreting the data.
The 55 million people who live those so called time over-ed,end of limelight places will be just fine with largest economies, best education, highest incomes, best urban cities and most cultural locations. Get out of your car once in a while and experience what a city can offer. Because honestly there are good things going on in the sunbelt cities
BTW it is not about density it is about vibrancy, car oriented neighborhoods by and large offer no where near the level of vibrance provided by more dense neighborhoods. But honestly we all get to choose where we live and that is really a great thing about this country
Who cares about a bunch of streets with people walking on them with there iPods walking 35 miles a hour..with shopping bags and starbucks alot of them are trading that in for the car.. And are moveing south in droves.. We are happy to choose where we wanna live..The things you call superior is subjective to me because I don't need all that vibrancy to live a nice quality life... I can obtain a great educAtion right here in the south.I live. In a urban area here where I can walk to where I need to go. I have culture amenties surrounded around me.. So I'm I am just fine here in the South but the fact still remains Houston is 4th largest city
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What, yet another OCD post by Kidphilly to prove to us how Philadelphia is the #4 city based on whatever metric he came up with plus whining about the US Census again? What is this, a day that ends in "Y"?
lmao, he never seems to stop beating that horse does he? That horse must be as flat as paper by now.
It is funny he has acolytes too. Killakoolaide is always cheering on his nonsense
I clicked on that link and I clicked on the second column to get all the countries together and the numbers are exactly the same as those I posted.
Yours:
14 Los Angeles[14] United States 14,775,000 5,812 2,500 H / H
28 Chicago[23] United States 9,185,000 5,952 1,500 H / H
49 Dallas–Fort Worth[33] United States 5,620,000 3,959 1,400 H / H
50 San Francisco–San Jose[34] United States 5,550,000 2,497 2,200 H / H
52 Miami[36] United States 5,405,000 2,891 1,900 A / A
55 Philadelphia[7] United States 5,320,000 4,661 1,100 A / A
60 Houston[38] United States 4,935,000 3,463 1,400 H / H
63 Boston[39] United States 4,815,000 5,501 900 H / H
67 Atlanta[41] United States 4,625,000 5,083 900 A / A
69 Washington, D.C.[43] United States 4,510,000 2,996 1,500 A / A
78 Phoenix–Mesa[45] United States 3,985,000 2,069 1,900 A / A
81 Detroit[46] United States 3,880,000 3,267 1,200
Mine:
1. NY 20.6M
2. LA 14.8M
3. Chi 9M
4. DFWA 5.6
5. SF/SJ/Oak 5.5
6. MIA 5.4
7. Phil 5.3
8. Hous 4.9
9. Bost 4.8
10. ATL 4.6
11. DC 4.5
12. PHO 3.9
13 DET 3.8
KidPhilly even PA posters are posting the same info that I am
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I just wish some of the Midwestern and Northeastern cities start seeing a resurgence of popularity post-recession. I think most Northern cities have so much to offer and yet they are getting mostly overlooked -- it's a shame!
I clicked on that link and I clicked on the second column to get all the countries together and the numbers are exactly the same as those I posted.
Yours:
14 Los Angeles[14] United States 14,775,000 5,812 2,500 H / H
28 Chicago[23] United States 9,185,000 5,952 1,500 H / H
49 Dallas–Fort Worth[33] United States 5,620,000 3,959 1,400 H / H
50 San Francisco–San Jose[34] United States 5,550,000 2,497 2,200 H / H
52 Miami[36] United States 5,405,000 2,891 1,900 A / A
55 Philadelphia[7] United States 5,320,000 4,661 1,100 A / A
60 Houston[38] United States 4,935,000 3,463 1,400 H / H
63 Boston[39] United States 4,815,000 5,501 900 H / H
67 Atlanta[41] United States 4,625,000 5,083 900 A / A
69 Washington, D.C.[43] United States 4,510,000 2,996 1,500 A / A
78 Phoenix–Mesa[45] United States 3,985,000 2,069 1,900 A / A
81 Detroit[46] United States 3,880,000 3,267 1,200
Mine:
1. NY 20.6M
2. LA 14.8M
3. Chi 9M
4. DFWA 5.6
5. SF/SJ/Oak 5.5
6. MIA 5.4
7. Phil 5.3
8. Hous 4.9
9. Bost 4.8
10. ATL 4.6
11. DC 4.5
12. PHO 3.9
13 DET 3.8
KidPhilly even PA posters are posting the same info that I am
It's interesting to look at the overall density of those urban areas.
BTW the 2010 early estimate had Houston less than 20K ahead of Philly not statistically different and within the error range, either way it will pass unless counties are added back to the Philly MSA.
whether they are added back or not, it won't make a difference for long. Houston's natural increase for 08-09 was almost 70K. So whether or not people come here or stop coming completely, Houston is gonna add 1 million new people by simply pumping them out. Decrease the migration numbers to half of what it is now and that adds another 500K in the next ten years, if things stay the same that is about 1.7M people added over the next 10 years. Compare that to less than 200K for Philly
Quote:
On UA (larger Urban area), CSA (Larger expaned Metro) and DMA (the largest margin nearly 30% larger based on proximity of population and media markets) DMA Rankings - US TV Households by Market (http://www.tvb.org/rcentral/markettrack/US_HH_by_DMA.asp - broken link) Philly is still considerably larger
Houston is catching up on y'alls UA and should be there in 3 years. On CSA you will probably be nonexistent in 5 year when NY swallows you up. on DMA give it 4 years.
Well, that's pretty uncalled for. Philadelphia is by far a greater city than anything you'd find in Texas, or the south for that matter. The sunbelt is having it's booming period for now. I'm sure things will have died down greatly by 2020. The things that allow the sunbelt to rise to "greatness" will be the same factors that eventually bring about its demise. Car centric planning will only allow these cities to sprawl so far, and an infill is going to cost a ton of money and be very difficult to get going.
Houston and Dallas can brag all they want that they've surpassed Philadelphia in population, but most people would agree that Philadelphia is by far the superior city.
Superior my arse
We will be passing up chicagoland too. I will be interested to note your superior tone in 2030.
I dunno why you all think we will stop growing if people stop moving to the city (which is stupid to believe). Natural increase accounts for half of our growth. that was 700K in the last decade, should be 1M this coming one
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Mumbai has like 20 million people.....how COOL is that city?!!?! Chicago and Philly are US staples, and will always be known as such.
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