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Originally Posted by Cthulhu7
Very good points.
Vermont was still a part of NY during the revolution.
Aside from place names (of which many are still quite evident) the French Canadian influence on Wisconsin has faded significantly over the centuries, as can be seen in this map:
Also, Wisconsin and Vermont are both near the Canadian border and have similar climates which would have required similar preparations for early settlers (clothing, construction, diet etc.)
Very good example.
Also, the Socialist Party had a huge influence on Wisconsin, which was also carried by the Progressive party in multiple presidential elections during the first half of the 20th century. Wisconsin Progressive Party - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Very true.
NC has a slightly larger proportion which is black/African-American. Both states have large Mexican-American populations compared to other southern states, although Texas clearly has largest in number and proportion by far.
Dialect/accent regions, this map was already posted somewhere on the C-D forums:
NC has a slightly larger proportion which is black/African-American. Both states have large Mexican-American populations compared to other southern states, although Texas clearly has largest in number and proportion by far.
Good info (although a few minor quibbles with the second dialect map...but no biggie tonight)! Just wanted to say you are very correct about the black vis a' vis' Mexican-American populations as concerns North Carolina and Texas.
It is important to remember though, that this dis-proportion is a fairly recent phenomenon in Texas. It is not that the black population has decreased, but that the Mexican population has significantly increased. African-Americans in Texas were the majority-minority in the state up until at least the 1970's. And still are in many areas.
Too -- and this is just a fact, not intended to be a subject of political debate one way or another on this thread -- there is no telling how much of the Mexican population in Texas today is illegal or the first-generation result of the same.
On the other hand, most of the black population of Texas, like any other Southern state, is well-established, and has been for many generations. It was really that anglo/black duality that formed the basis of Texas' history/culture of an essentially Southern state.
I will add, that as a native of Atlanta, I have no noticeable Southern accent. Granted, my parents are from Cleveland, but all of my friends are also native (we tend to stick together), and not a single one of them has an accent. In fact, I could probably list the natives I know who also have an accent on one hand. This includes those whose parents are from the South or Atlanta. If you have an accent in Atlanta, you get made fun of or get accused of faking it.
I will say that Northerners think I have an accent, but I am pretty sure that's only because I use the word "ya'll" (which is still used by every native I know).
To be honest, I'm pretty thankful that Atlantans have lost the accent. I find Southern accents annoying as hell, and I'm glad I don't have to deal with them in Atlanta.
In any case, in my experience, the North Carolinian accent is a little more-"syrupy", while the Texas accent has more of a "twang", slightly-westernized...
There's nothing western about a twang. You have been deceived by Hollywood and by the random decision of a record executive to lump "country" and "western" into one category. Ever since then, people have been confused about the West. The West is and always has been solidly General American in its accent, much closer to the Midwest than the South.
Atlantans say things like "shawty", which is down right repulsive. Also, in a club once i heard a guy say "back it up shawty and do the stanky leg".
Again, white people from Atlanta don't have accents. I have never used the word "Shawty" in my life. That's ghetto speak, and it is a term used by black people all over the country, not just Atlanta. Nice try.
White people in Atlanta have extreme southern accents. You might not realize this because you are from the south.
And nobody outside of the southeast says "shawty". So, get out of your bubble in the southeast and travel a little. Nice try.
I'm from Atlanta, I think I would know if people had accents there. But whatever. I have read some other threads, and I get your M.O. now--you are obsessed with ripping on Atlanta.
I will add, that as a native of Atlanta, I have no noticeable Southern accent. Granted, my parents are from Cleveland, but all of my friends are also native (we tend to stick together), and not a single one of them has an accent. In fact, I could probably list the natives I know who also have an accent on one hand. This includes those whose parents are from the South or Atlanta. If you have an accent in Atlanta, you get made fun of or get accused of faking it.
I will say that Northerners think I have an accent, but I am pretty sure that's only because I use the word "ya'll" (which is still used by every native I know).
To be honest, I'm pretty thankful that Atlantans have lost the accent. I find Southern accents annoying as hell, and I'm glad I don't have to deal with them in Atlanta.
Simple Southern accent test: words like why, try and I. Are they closer to "ah" or closer to "ay"?
(don't get me wrong, nobody actually says "ay" for I, but it's pretty damn close, unless you have a Southern accent)
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