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A fellow HBCU grad?! Well why didn’t you say so?! We’re good!!
All jokes aside, I wasn’t offended in the least, just taken a bit back by your response...then again it’s hard to interpret written text sometimes.
Just to clarify, never said Atlanta wasn’t diverse, I said in comparison to Miami it just isn’t as much. Miami may not have a significant Asian presence, but let’s not pretend that Atlanta has anywhere the Asian population of say a San Francisco, Boston, NYC....pretty much any major metro with a Chinatown. Where Atlanta comes short is in the ethnic white population. The whites in Atlanta are majority born and bred descendants of the American South. The whites here are locals or Europeans from various countries and typically speak the native tongues.
Just with our seasonal snowbird population you’ll often run into them - especially French Canadians. That’s another thing, we especially get more diverse during late Fall to late Spring. Correct me if I’m wrong but does Atlanta receive snowbird traffic (genuine question)?
When it comes to the diaspora discussion, I almost don’t even need to see any hard data to believe Atlanta wins. In my travels, only DC with their significant African immigrant (*cough cough* ethiopians lol) probably comes close to ATL.
Oh and I guess I’ll start with one of the most well known, is there an El Bodegon or Bravo supermarket in the Atlanta area? Googled it but couldn’t confirm.
A fellow HBCU grad?! Well why didn’t you say so?! We’re good!!
All jokes aside, I wasn’t offended in the least, just taken a bit back by your response...then again it’s hard to interpret written text sometimes.
Just to clarify, never said Atlanta wasn’t diverse, I said in comparison to Miami it just isn’t as much. Miami may not have a significant Asian presence, but let’s not pretend that Atlanta has anywhere the Asian population of say a San Francisco, Boston, NYC....pretty much any major metro with a Chinatown. Where Atlanta comes short is in the ethnic white population. The whites in Atlanta are majority born and bred descendants of the American South. The whites here are locals or Europeans from various countries and typically speak the native tongues.
Just with our seasonal snowbird population you’ll often run into them - especially French Canadians. That’s another thing, we especially get more diverse during late Fall to late Spring. Correct me if I’m wrong but does Atlanta receive snowbird traffic (genuine question)?
When it comes to the diaspora discussion, I almost don’t even need to see any hard data to believe Atlanta wins. In my travels, only DC with their significant African immigrant (*cough cough* ethiopians lol) probably comes close to ATL.
Oh and I guess I’ll start with one of the most well known, is there an El Bodegon or Bravo supermarket in the Atlanta area? Googled it but couldn’t confirm.
Ill just share a repost but only some Latin and European countries.
Source: US Census 2016 American Community Survey, 1 Year. Table B05006
Cuba
1. Miami: 807,571 people
2. Tampa: 66,596
3. New York: 61,248
4. Houston: 30,582
5. Orlando: 26,648
6. Las Vegas: 19,694
7. Los Angeles: 17,309
8. Dallas: 8086
9. Chicago: 7355
10. Atlanta: 7302
El Salvador
1. Los Angeles: 298,340 people
2. Washington DC: 200,283
3. New York: 151,674
4. Houston: 117,801
5. San Francisco: 63,310
6. Dallas: 57,117
7. Boston: 41,944
8. Riverside, CA: 34,449
9. Miami: 31,539
10. Atlanta: 21,415
Honduras
1. New York: 86,845 people
2. Miami: 80,412
3. Houston: 60,812
4. Washington DC: 53,296
5. Los Angeles: 37,499
6. Dallas: 21,160
7. Atlanta: 17,261
8. Charlotte: 11,993
9. Boston: 11,434
10. Chicago: 10,026
Canada
1. New York: 48,003 people
2. Los Angeles: 40,842
3. Phoenix: 33,911
4. Miami: 32,010
5. Seattle: 25,009
6. Boston: 21,408
7. Detroit: 21,281
8. San Francisco: 18,599
9. Tampa: 17,839
10. Chicago: 15,130
United Kingdom
1. New York: 64,550 people
2. Los Angeles: 44,190
3. Boston: 19,866
4. Houston: 19,252
5. Washington DC: 18,682
6. Miami: 17,541
7. Chicago: 16,487
8. Seattle: 15,430
9. Atlanta: 15,262
10. Tampa: 14,610
Ecuador
1. New York: 247,223 people
2. Miami: 30,017
3. Chicago: 15,283
4. Los Angeles: 13,963
5. Orlando: 6967
6. Washington DC: 6754
7. Charlotte: 6368
8. Boston: 5638
9. Dallas: 5418
10. Tampa: 4899
Peru
1. New York: 106,909 people
2. Miami: 54,939
3. Washington DC: 34,112
4. Los Angeles: 31,228
5. San Francisco: 16,748
6. Chicago: 7836
7. Riverside, CA: 7504
8. Houston: 7377
9. Orlando: 6474
10. Tampa: 6332
Brazil(not Latin)
1. Boston: 56,741 people
2. New York: 50,526
3. Miami: 48,389
4. Orlando: 19,584
5. Los Angeles: 14,596
6. Washington DC: 13,375
7. San Francisco: 12,534
8. Philadelphia: 10,943
9. Atlanta: 9519
10. San Diego: 8032
Germany
1. New York: 48,164 people
2. Los Angeles: 23,394
3. Chicago: 17,950
4. Washington DC: 16,674
5. San Francisco: 15,186
6. Miami: 12,543
7. Seattle: 11,880
8. Atlanta: 10,759
9. Philadelphia: 10,046
10. Detroit: 9921
Italy
1. New York: 113,791 people
2. Chicago: 18,510
3. Boston: 17,025
4. Miami: 14,440
5. Philadelphia: 11,875
6. Los Angeles: 11,793
7. Detroit: 8112
8. Hartford, CT: 6630
9. San Francisco: 6167
10. Washington DC: 4570
Venezuela
1. Miami: 114,178 people
2. Orlando: 27,324
3. Houston: 21,075
4. New York: 18,156
5. Tampa: 8056
6. Atlanta: 6520
7. Washington DC: 5217
8. Boston: 4810
9. Los Angeles: 4359
10. Dallas: 3885
Nicaragua
1. Miami: 85,304 people
2. Los Angeles: 24,793
3. San Francisco: 17,606
4. New York: 14,953
5. Washington DC: 11,968
6. Houston: 9544
7. Riverside, CA: 6326
8. Orlando: 4359
9. Dallas: 4086
10. Seattle: 3809
Ethiopia
. Houston: 3773
Argentina
1. Miami: 41,911 people
2. New York: 28,417
3. Los Angeles: 16,829
4. Washington DC: 8095
5. Riverside, CA: 5115
6. Chicago: 4827
7. Orlando: 4700
8. Houston: 4558
9. San Francisco: 4322
10. Boston: 3263
France
1. New York: 28,412 people
2. Los Angeles: 12,383
3. San Francisco: 10,768
4. Miami: 9276
5. Washington DC: 7324
6. Boston: 6525
7. San Jose: 4798
8. Chicago: 4763
9. Houston: 4546
10. Dallas: 3485
Romania
1. New York: 23,263 people
2. Chicago: 16,764
3. Los Angeles: 9345
4. Detroit: 6957
5. Miami: 6093
6. Cleveland: 5695
7. Phoenix: 5384
8. Atlanta: 4989
9. Portland: 4095
10. Seattle: 4061
The list goes pn and has Miami in the top 10 for Portugal,Spain,Ireland,Chilie,Bolivia,Ukraine,Russ ia,Italy ,etc
Atlanta is only is listed for Australia,Bosnia,The Netherlands.Uzbekistan,Germany
But like a lot on the list Atlanta is represented along with Miami in countries like Sweden,Denmark,Belgium,Uruguay,Costa Rica,Panama ,Abania etc
Miami is a vacation destination so its going to be quite different in most cases than almost every American city.
Native Europeans are going to be represented everywhere. Even in DC,LA.SF etc you are less likely to meet a person directly from Europe.
Clearly from the list its not overwhelming that Miami's lead in European residents unlike Atlanta's Asian countries are very well represented but I didnt see ONE Asian or African country for that matter that was represented in Miami.
.Its just some are more over represented where Atlanta has a very good balance of many more countries overall. In Europe no huge difference but you would think Miami would be crushing in representation compared to Atlanta but as I posted,Atlanta does well in the European as well as even better in the Latin category.
Even Cuba ,Atlanta is in the top 10.
Ive met a few Cubans that moved from Miami so I expect to see in the next Census a bump in all Latin countries represented
To answer your question,El Bodegon I believe is only on South Florida .Its not like a major chain found outside of FL.
HMart and NaeDae Mun are international stores found where high populations of Asians reside.There are local Hispanic stores here but supermarkets on that level like the Asian stores,i dont even know of any in the country
Atlanta may have a larger Asian community than Miami, but let’s not pretend it’s anywhere near a real metro that has at minimum a ,Chinatown. Both cities have less than 5% based on what I quickly googled. Correct me if I’m wrong.
True but there are some Asian communities that are more than 10-20 percent. Atlanta does have a Chinatown but its more like an outdoor mall.
The Asian pop. in Atlanta is 5.3.
I dont know what you mean by "a real metro" but here is a list of the top 100 counties in percentage of Asians and Atlanta (Gwinnett County) ranks as high as 36 and has a total of 5 counties represented in the list but Miami has not one single county. https://www.bizjournals.com/buffalo/...y-leaders.html
Wow thank you. Funny, I have a reputation amongst friends and family as being fair and balanced. Nice to see it confirmed from someone else.
Listen if South Florida could win this friendly “debate” easily I’d be thrilled, but the facts are that Atlanta is a great place too and even beats us in certain metrics. It’s up to the individual to choose what metrics are most important to them for QOL.
Here’s a real debate: Who’d win if Atlanta had a beach and Miami had 5 more Fortune 500/1000 companies? Hahaha
Not really sure if it would make a difference.
Why aren't there any major cities the size of Atlanta or Miami in coastal Georgia?
Florida even has coastal cities like Tampa & Jacksonville which are major metros but nowhere near the size of Miami or Atlanta.
Atlanta may have a larger Asian community than Miami, but let’s not pretend it’s anywhere near a real metro that has at minimum a Chinatown. Both cities have less than 5% based on what I quickly googled. Correct me if I’m wrong.
To be fair Atlanta's metropolitan area has significantly more Asians than Miami's metropolitan area. Atlanta MSA actually has 6% to Miami's 2%. The highest concentration of Asian communities are in Gwinnett county and Forsyth county.
According to census Atlanta's MSA raw number for Asian Americans are 364,440 to Miami's MSA of 152,893.
Also a suburb like Duluth has a pretty impressive Korean community. One of the biggest outside the westcoast if I'm not mistaken.
Not really sure if it would make a difference.
Why aren't there any major cities the size of Atlanta or Miami in coastal Georgia?
Florida even has coastal cities like Tampa & Jacksonville which are major metros but nowhere near the size of Miami or Atlanta.
Savannah could be a lot larger than it is, but has never really grown, and it's much older than Atlanta or Miami.
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While Miami has a smaller Asian population, fortunately the Asian food scene is well represented here and quite good.
Hutong (Hong Kong and NYC based) and Novikov serve up some of the best Peking duck I’ve had anywhere. Ditto for Asian fusion style Komodo. NAOE is one of THE best sushi restaurants (Omakase style) in the nation (though not cheap—on par with Nobu); Cote is a recent Korean BBQ import from NYC (Michelin star to boot); KYU (with expansion of a restaurant in Mexico City) and the 1-800-Lucky 10,000 sq foot Asian food hall are excellent options in Wynwood. Phuc Yea (love their name) is solid Vietnamese food. Tropical is my favorite dim sum option. Finally, Lung Yai Thai Tapas in Little Havana is excellent...no shortage of solid Asian cuisine in spite of a small Asian population—that’s without my even bringing up Peruvian cuisine which has Asian influence..
Miami does share other things in common with Hong Kong—the only 2 cities outside of Switzerland to host the renowned Art Basel. Hong Kong based real estate developer Swire Properties US headquarters is based in Miami and was responsible for the development of Mandarin Oriental Hotel and upscale Asia condo on Brickell Key along with Brickell City Centre Mall and Reach and Rise luxury condos. Ultra Music Festival (EDM) is quite popular with Asian youths, some of whom travel to Miami for the event held here (or see Miami listed as a host city when attending events back home), so Miami is not entirely foreign to Asia and vice versa.
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To be fair Atlanta's metropolitan area has significantly more Asians than Miami's metropolitan area. Atlanta MSA actually has 6% to Miami's 2%. The highest concentration of Asian communities are in Gwinnett county and Forsyth county.
According to census Atlanta's MSA raw number for Asian Americans are 364,440 to Miami's MSA of 152,893.
Also a suburb like Duluth has a pretty impressive Korean community. One of the biggest outside the westcoast if I'm not mistaken.
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It goes without saying that Miami's foreign-born population is very high at 41.6% of the overall metropolitan population, but a whopping 87% are from Latin America with only 5% from Asia, another 5% from Europe, and only 1% from Africa.
Atlanta's foreign-born population is obviously much more modest at only 14.2% of the population, but also arguably more diverse with 45% hailing from Latin America, 34% from Asia, 11% from Africa, and 8% from Europe.
To be fair Atlanta's metropolitan area has significantly more Asians than Miami's metropolitan area. Atlanta MSA actually has 6% to Miami's 2%. The highest concentration of Asian communities are in Gwinnett county and Forsyth county.
According to census Atlanta's MSA raw number for Asian Americans are 364,440 to Miami's MSA of 152,893.
Also a suburb like Duluth has a pretty impressive Korean community. One of the biggest outside the westcoast if I'm not mistaken.
Also In Clayton County which has a sizable Vietnamese/Cambodian a\ans even Indian population.
Morrow,GA has about equal number of blacks as there are Asians..
Yje white and Hispanic population are almost equal as well
It has a 34 prevent foreign born pop
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