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Thanks for quantifying. Much respect for this post.
Atlanta is doing better than I expected in a few of these lists; however, your stats appear to support my original statement of Miami having more ethnic whites.
Although not Miami, it appears Florida will be getting an HMart...gotta crawl before you walk lol
Ill just share a repost but only some Latin and European countries.
Source: US Census 2016 American Community Survey, 1 Year. Table B05006
Cuba
1. Miami: 807,571 people
2. Tampa: 66,596
3. New York: 61,248
4. Houston: 30,582
5. Orlando: 26,648
6. Las Vegas: 19,694
7. Los Angeles: 17,309
8. Dallas: 8086
9. Chicago: 7355
10. Atlanta: 7302
El Salvador
1. Los Angeles: 298,340 people
2. Washington DC: 200,283
3. New York: 151,674
4. Houston: 117,801
5. San Francisco: 63,310
6. Dallas: 57,117
7. Boston: 41,944
8. Riverside, CA: 34,449
9. Miami: 31,539
10. Atlanta: 21,415
Honduras
1. New York: 86,845 people
2. Miami: 80,412
3. Houston: 60,812
4. Washington DC: 53,296
5. Los Angeles: 37,499
6. Dallas: 21,160
7. Atlanta: 17,261
8. Charlotte: 11,993
9. Boston: 11,434
10. Chicago: 10,026
Canada
1. New York: 48,003 people
2. Los Angeles: 40,842
3. Phoenix: 33,911
4. Miami: 32,010
5. Seattle: 25,009
6. Boston: 21,408
7. Detroit: 21,281
8. San Francisco: 18,599
9. Tampa: 17,839
10. Chicago: 15,130
United Kingdom
1. New York: 64,550 people
2. Los Angeles: 44,190
3. Boston: 19,866
4. Houston: 19,252
5. Washington DC: 18,682
6. Miami: 17,541
7. Chicago: 16,487
8. Seattle: 15,430
9. Atlanta: 15,262
10. Tampa: 14,610
Ecuador
1. New York: 247,223 people
2. Miami: 30,017
3. Chicago: 15,283
4. Los Angeles: 13,963
5. Orlando: 6967
6. Washington DC: 6754
7. Charlotte: 6368
8. Boston: 5638
9. Dallas: 5418
10. Tampa: 4899
Peru
1. New York: 106,909 people
2. Miami: 54,939
3. Washington DC: 34,112
4. Los Angeles: 31,228
5. San Francisco: 16,748
6. Chicago: 7836
7. Riverside, CA: 7504
8. Houston: 7377
9. Orlando: 6474
10. Tampa: 6332
Brazil(not Latin)
1. Boston: 56,741 people
2. New York: 50,526
3. Miami: 48,389
4. Orlando: 19,584
5. Los Angeles: 14,596
6. Washington DC: 13,375
7. San Francisco: 12,534
8. Philadelphia: 10,943
9. Atlanta: 9519
10. San Diego: 8032
Germany
1. New York: 48,164 people
2. Los Angeles: 23,394
3. Chicago: 17,950
4. Washington DC: 16,674
5. San Francisco: 15,186
6. Miami: 12,543
7. Seattle: 11,880
8. Atlanta: 10,759
9. Philadelphia: 10,046
10. Detroit: 9921
Italy
1. New York: 113,791 people
2. Chicago: 18,510
3. Boston: 17,025
4. Miami: 14,440
5. Philadelphia: 11,875
6. Los Angeles: 11,793
7. Detroit: 8112
8. Hartford, CT: 6630
9. San Francisco: 6167
10. Washington DC: 4570
Venezuela
1. Miami: 114,178 people
2. Orlando: 27,324
3. Houston: 21,075
4. New York: 18,156
5. Tampa: 8056
6. Atlanta: 6520
7. Washington DC: 5217
8. Boston: 4810
9. Los Angeles: 4359
10. Dallas: 3885
Nicaragua
1. Miami: 85,304 people
2. Los Angeles: 24,793
3. San Francisco: 17,606
4. New York: 14,953
5. Washington DC: 11,968
6. Houston: 9544
7. Riverside, CA: 6326
8. Orlando: 4359
9. Dallas: 4086
10. Seattle: 3809
Ethiopia
. Houston: 3773
Argentina
1. Miami: 41,911 people
2. New York: 28,417
3. Los Angeles: 16,829
4. Washington DC: 8095
5. Riverside, CA: 5115
6. Chicago: 4827
7. Orlando: 4700
8. Houston: 4558
9. San Francisco: 4322
10. Boston: 3263
France
1. New York: 28,412 people
2. Los Angeles: 12,383
3. San Francisco: 10,768
4. Miami: 9276
5. Washington DC: 7324
6. Boston: 6525
7. San Jose: 4798
8. Chicago: 4763
9. Houston: 4546
10. Dallas: 3485
Romania
1. New York: 23,263 people
2. Chicago: 16,764
3. Los Angeles: 9345
4. Detroit: 6957
5. Miami: 6093
6. Cleveland: 5695
7. Phoenix: 5384
8. Atlanta: 4989
9. Portland: 4095
10. Seattle: 4061
The list goes pn and has Miami in the top 10 for Portugal,Spain,Ireland,Chilie,Bolivia,Ukraine,Russ ia,Italy ,etc
Atlanta is only is listed for Australia,Bosnia,The Netherlands.Uzbekistan,Germany
But like a lot on the list Atlanta is represented along with Miami in countries like Sweden,Denmark,Belgium,Uruguay,Costa Rica,Panama ,Abania etc
Miami is a vacation destination so its going to be quite different in most cases than almost every American city.
Native Europeans are going to be represented everywhere. Even in DC,LA.SF etc you are less likely to meet a person directly from Europe.
Clearly from the list its not overwhelming that Miami's lead in European residents unlike Atlanta's Asian countries are very well represented but I didnt see ONE Asian or African country for that matter that was represented in Miami.
.Its just some are more over represented where Atlanta has a very good balance of many more countries overall. In Europe no huge difference but you would think Miami would be crushing in representation compared to Atlanta but as I posted,Atlanta does well in the European as well as even better in the Latin category.
Even Cuba ,Atlanta is in the top 10.
Ive met a few Cubans that moved from Miami so I expect to see in the next Census a bump in all Latin countries represented
To answer your question,El Bodegon I believe is only on South Florida .Its not like a major chain found outside of FL.
HMart and NaeDae Mun are international stores found where high populations of Asians reside.There are local Hispanic stores here but supermarkets on that level like the Asian stores,i dont even know of any in the country
Perhaps I should have worded this better. What I meant by "real metro" is one that is dense and isn't car centric like Miami and Atlanta.
I've had a few internships and even my first job out of college in Boston - it appeared at one time life was pushing me in that geographical area. IMO, those areas Boston, NYC, SF etc are true asian hubs.
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Originally Posted by CleverOne
True but there are some Asian communities that are more than 10-20 percent. Atlanta does have a Chinatown but its more like an outdoor mall.
The Asian pop. in Atlanta is 5.3.
I dont know what you mean by "a real metro" but here is a list of the top 100 counties in percentage of Asians and Atlanta (Gwinnett County) ranks as high as 36 and has a total of 5 counties represented in the list but Miami has not one single county. https://www.bizjournals.com/buffalo/...y-leaders.html
It goes without saying that Miami's foreign-born population is very high at 41.6% of the overall metropolitan population, but a whopping 87% are from Latin America with only 5% from Asia, another 5% from Europe, and only 1% from Africa.
Atlanta's foreign-born population is obviously much more modest at only 14.2% of the population, but also arguably more diverse with 45% hailing from Latin America, 34% from Asia, 11% from Africa, and 8% from Europe.
I think people just assume Atlanta isnt diverse because its such a well known city for having a large black population but as you just posted,its African representation is impressive and notably unique in the US
Perhaps I should have worded this better. What I meant by "real metro" is one that is dense and isn't car centric like Miami and Atlanta.
I've had a few internships and even my first job out of college in Boston - it appeared at one time life was pushing me in that geographical area. IMO, those areas Boston, NYC, SF etc are true asian hubs.
Thanks for quantifying. Much respect for this post.
Atlanta is doing better than I expected in a few of these lists; however, your stats appear to support my original statement of Miami having more ethnic whites.
Although not Miami, it appears Florida will be getting an HMart...gotta crawl before you walk lol
I was just trying to say its not like Atlanta doesnt have a significant European representation which ypu seemed tp suggest that it was lacking.
I agree it does appear Miami has more but my point was its not like Atlanta isnt well represented too. In other words we arent talking a huge difference comparatively speaking when you consider how wide of a difference the Asian and African populations between Miami and Atlanta
Excellent post! I'd love to see the counter arguments against this lol
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Originally Posted by elchevere
While Miami has a smaller Asian population, fortunately the Asian food scene is well represented here and quite good.
Hutong (Hong Kong and NYC based) and Novikov serve up some of the best Peking duck I’ve had anywhere. Ditto for Asian fusion style Komodo. NAOE is one of THE best sushi restaurants (Omakase style) in the nation (though not cheap—on par with Nobu); Cote is a recent Korean BBQ import from NYC (Michelin star to boot); KYU (with expansion of a restaurant in Mexico City) and the 1-800-Lucky 10,000 sq foot Asian food hall are excellent options in Wynwood. Phuc Yea (love their name) is solid Vietnamese food. Tropical is my favorite dim sum option. Finally, Lung Yai Thai Tapas in Little Havana is excellent...no shortage of solid Asian cuisine in spite of a small Asian population—that’s without my even bringing up Peruvian cuisine which has Asian influence..
Miami does share other things in common with Hong Kong—the only 2 cities outside of Switzerland to host the renowned Art Basel. Hong Kong based real estate developer Swire Properties US headquarters is based in Miami and was responsible for the development of Mandarin Oriental Hotel and upscale Asia condo on Brickell Key along with Brickell City Centre Mall and Reach and Rise luxury condos. Ultra Music Festival (EDM) is quite popular with Asian youths, some of whom travel to Miami for the event held here (or see Miami listed as a host city when attending events back home), so Miami is not entirely foreign to Asia and vice versa.
This is an excellent point and one I was going to bring up much earlier but got really caught up in the demographics of ATL vs MIA.
IMO Atlanta is alot like Chicago (wife is from Illinois, we go there at least twice a year) where you have one major metropolis that practically runs the state politically, culturally, and is its major tax base. Florida isn't like that at all - Although S.Fla is probably the most influential metro due to its significant size, we have other heavy hitting metros/cities that have their own culture (Tampa, Orlando, Jacksonville, etc). In South Florida alone we have WPB, Ft. Lauderdale, and of course Miami. All three cities have their own downtowns and WPB & Ft. Lauderdale are not just "bedroom communities" dependent on Miami for jobs, entertainment, culture etc. They have their own prospering economies.
Atlanta is a great city that one on one will give Miami a run for its money, but if we add in the metro area and how the Brightline train (or Virgin USA whatever it is these days) will connect all of South Florida to Central Florida & Tampa, I fail to see Atlanta having anything comparable.
Honestly, outside of Atlanta and possibly Savannah, nothing in Georgia interests me in the least - In fact in those majority rural towns it is very much the "Old South."
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Originally Posted by Bobdreamz
Not really sure if it would make a difference.
Why aren't there any major cities the size of Atlanta or Miami in coastal Georgia?
Florida even has coastal cities like Tampa & Jacksonville which are major metros but nowhere near the size of Miami or Atlanta.
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True...and there are ethnic neighborhoods, outside of Hispanic ones....the business district on Arthur Godfrey Road in mid beach (Miami Beach) has been called Little Tel Aviv (whereas Tel Aviv is often referred to as the Miami of the Middle East); Sunny Isles is often referred to as Moscow on the Sea whereas barely a day goes by where I don’t hear Russian spoken in Hispanic dominated Brickell; French Canadians are split between Miami Beach, Hollywood and Ft Lauderdale; there’s not one specific area (yet) where Turks are concentrated, but they are here with more having come over within recent years....then, of course, you have your bigger share of ex New York and New Jersey enclaves in Boca, Delray Beach and Palm Beach in terms of the greater SoFla area/within the Miami MSA. Lake Worth has the largest Finnish population in the world outside of Scandinavia. There’s even Moroccans scattered between Miami Beach, Hollywood, Ft Lauderdale and Pompano (I used to date one).
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This is an excellent point and one I was going to bring up much earlier but got really caught up in the demographics of ATL vs MIA.
IMO Atlanta is alot like Chicago (wife is from Illinois, we go there at least twice a year) where you have one major metropolis that practically runs the state politically, culturally, and is its major tax base. Florida isn't like that at all - Although S.Fla is probably the most influential metro due to its significant size, we have other heavy hitting metros/cities that have their own culture (Tampa, Orlando, Jacksonville, etc). In South Florida alone we have WPB, Ft. Lauderdale, and of course Miami. All three cities have their own downtowns and WPB & Ft. Lauderdale are not just "bedroom communities" dependent on Miami for jobs, entertainment, culture etc. They have their own prospering economies.
Atlanta is a great city that one on one will give Miami a run for its money, but if we add in the metro area and how the Brightline train (or Virgin USA whatever it is these days) will connect all of South Florida to Central Florida & Tampa, I fail to see Atlanta having anything comparable.
Honestly, outside of Atlanta and possibly Savannah, nothing in Georgia interests me in the least - In fact in those majority rural towns it is very much the "Old South."
Last edited by elchevere; 05-04-2021 at 11:06 AM..
Excellent post! I'd love to see the counter arguments against this lol
Its not a counter. Im not surprised. I mean we are talking a major American city. Every city ,especially those in the top 20 will have a lot of diverse food options. Some more than others or heavy influence based on the representation of the racial makeup
This is an excellent point and one I was going to bring up much earlier but got really caught up in the demographics of ATL vs MIA.
IMO Atlanta is alot like Chicago (wife is from Illinois, we go there at least twice a year) where you have one major metropolis that practically runs the state politically, culturally, and is its major tax base. Florida isn't like that at all - Although S.Fla is probably the most influential metro due to its significant size, we have other heavy hitting metros/cities that have their own culture (Tampa, Orlando, Jacksonville, etc). In South Florida alone we have WPB, Ft. Lauderdale, and of course Miami. All three cities have their own downtowns and WPB & Ft. Lauderdale are not just "bedroom communities" dependent on Miami for jobs, entertainment, culture etc. They have their own prospering economies.
Atlanta is a great city that one on one will give Miami a run for its money, but if we add in the metro area and how the Brightline train (or Virgin USA whatever it is these days) will connect all of South Florida to Central Florida & Tampa, I fail to see Atlanta having anything comparable.
Honestly, outside of Atlanta and possibly Savannah, nothing in Georgia interests me in the least - In fact in those majority rural towns it is very much the "Old South."
I'd still rather live in GA. The state runs better economically and have a higher GDP per capita than Florida. I would also state again that Atlanta is more prominent than Miami on a national scale. Atlanta usually lands between 7-9 and Miami is usually 11-12.
Comparing Atlanta to three FL metros doesn't make sense. However, when you separate them, Miami and Atlanta is comparable with Atlanta edging it out overall.
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