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Old 09-26-2011, 12:58 PM
 
Location: The City
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Or you can go to Hoboken. PATH is a 24/7 train just like NYC subway.

works well if you live in Hoboken. My experience was from many years ago when I lived in Bucks county PA (train out of Trenton)

When I lived in Boken it was never an issue, though many times took a cab but sometimes cabs didnt want to take the tunnels. Regardless path doent really help someone say going to Rutgers and trying to get to New Brunswick
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Old 09-26-2011, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Part of this is because the city limits of DC are tiny compared to NYC (or Chicago). Somebody taking the metro to Bethesda or East Falls or Silver Spring would still be within NYC city limits. So your example isnt really a fair comparison. PATH (also 24/7) takes thousands of people into New Jersey every night.
Also keep in mind taxis (which im more likely to take late at night) are far more convenient in NYC late at night, good luck getting a DC cab driver to take you to Bethesda or far flung parts of Arlington.

All trains in NYC run 24/7, Chicago has 2 lines that run 24/7. DC has zero.
That is very true about the cabs in DC. Md and Va have their own cabs so they normally come into the district to pick you up. Most people take the metro if they live in the suburbs rather than a cab though. The last train comes through Adams Morgan around 3:20 a.m. so it works out better anyway.

I just think transit systems around the country should think about the benefit of late night trains on weekends for people in the suburbs. People make very irresponsible decisions even when there is a transit alternative but at least have that alternative. If the communities get involved to make a push for service at least on Friday and Saturday, things could change everywhere. Heavy Rail, Commuter Trains, Lightrail, Streetcars could all provide this service. Whatever system each city has could save lives by extending service. Many people try to avoid the high cab costs and just drive which is plain stupid and irresponsible. As a country, we can work together to help our citizens have a good time out but a responsible outing as well.
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Old 09-26-2011, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Jersey City
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works well if you live in Hoboken. My experience was from many years ago when I lived in Bucks county PA (train out of Trenton)

When I lived in Boken it was never an issue, though many times took a cab but sometimes cabs didnt want to take the tunnels. Regardless path doent really help someone say going to Rutgers and trying to get to New Brunswick
*Shrug* Back when I lived in New Brunswick, we'd stay out at the clubs til 4 AM, go to a diner, and then take the 5:14 AM NEC train. It was a pretty good routine.
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Old 09-26-2011, 06:29 PM
 
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*Shrug* Back when I lived in New Brunswick, we'd stay out at the clubs til 4 AM, go to a diner, and then take the 5:14 AM NEC train. It was a pretty good routine.

Have done that as well, though many years ago These days would just stay in the city
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Old 09-26-2011, 09:07 PM
 
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*Shrug* Back when I lived in New Brunswick, we'd stay out at the clubs til 4 AM, go to a diner, and then take the 5:14 AM NEC train. It was a pretty good routine.
Very good plan. I hope most people do that.
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Old 09-26-2011, 11:27 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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South Jersey 24 hour Patco trains in and out of Philadelphia.
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Old 09-26-2011, 11:32 PM
 
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Based on transit I have actually taken at 3am across America, NY and Chi are the only cities that run 24x7.
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Old 09-28-2011, 10:06 PM
 
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That is very true about the cabs in DC. Md and Va have their own cabs so they normally come into the district to pick you up. Most people take the metro if they live in the suburbs rather than a cab though. The last train comes through Adams Morgan around 3:20 a.m. so it works out better anyway.

I just think transit systems around the country should think about the benefit of late night trains on weekends for people in the suburbs. People make very irresponsible decisions even when there is a transit alternative but at least have that alternative. If the communities get involved to make a push for service at least on Friday and Saturday, things could change everywhere. Heavy Rail, Commuter Trains, Lightrail, Streetcars could all provide this service. Whatever system each city has could save lives by extending service. Many people try to avoid the high cab costs and just drive which is plain stupid and irresponsible. As a country, we can work together to help our citizens have a good time out but a responsible outing as well.
I think his point was just that DC is so physically small that the heavy rail subway lines exit the city pretty easily and serve suburbs. In NYC or Chicago, there are those same heavy rail lines that run well into the night (all night), but they're almost entirely within the city limits. The issue here is that DC is like 66 square miles, and NYC and Chi are 200-300+ square miles.

For a comparison between Chicago, NYC and DC in this regards you'd have to look at coverage for the commuter rail lines around DC, not the Metro. Metro would be compared to CTA or MTA heavy rail. The only difference is that Metro physically leaves DC since in some cases you're in the suburbs within 3-5 miles from leaving the center of the city.
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Old 09-28-2011, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Drunk on the subway at 2 a.m. - could you beg for any more trouble? I've always taken a cab after a night like that. If I had to ride the subway late at night, I'd choose NYC over Chicago or DC.
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Old 09-28-2011, 10:18 PM
 
Location: The City
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I think his point was just that DC is so physically small that the heavy rail subway lines exit the city pretty easily and serve suburbs. In NYC or Chicago, there are those same heavy rail lines that run well into the night (all night), but they're almost entirely within the city limits. The issue here is that DC is like 66 square miles, and NYC and Chi are 200-300+ square miles.

For a comparison between Chicago, NYC and DC in this regards you'd have to look at coverage for the commuter rail lines around DC, not the Metro. Metro would be compared to CTA or MTA heavy rail. The only difference is that Metro physically leaves DC since in some cases you're in the suburbs within 3-5 miles from leaving the center of the city.

Also the Metro is more of Hybrid - serves both as part regional rail like and part core heavy rail and this is a benefit and benefit to the covered hours


Also something for perspective. While allowing people to travel without a car etc is a function. Funneling home those out on all night bender is not the primary reason for rail in America, never will be
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