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Old 09-30-2011, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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Originally Posted by DC's Finest View Post
NYC does not have 842 miles of (passenger and revenue) track!
NYC subway is 656 miles of revenue track and 842 miles of total track.
LIRR is 594 miles of revenue track.

DC Metro is 106 miles of total track.

If you put DC "suburban metro" in NYC, it wouldn't even cover most of the land in city limits.

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Old 09-30-2011, 09:46 AM
 
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What lines are 24 hr on LIRR? I just chose a random station (Medford) and it didn't have anything close to 24hr service. I already know about the Path but that only services close in suburbs equivalent to DC's Arlington. It doesn't even come close to distances like Shady Grove (Gaithersburg MD).
Unless one lives walking distance from the redline (or any other line) getting home from the station is still a pain, and will require driving, or at minimum, a cab.

DC does have great metro coverage to it's suburbs, but as others have said, it's apples and oranges to NYC as DC boundaries are tiny.
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Old 09-30-2011, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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I thought this was about regional rail transit to more distant outlying areas late at night? Now it's just about subways that cross borders into suburbs?

Cities with small civic boundries like DC are obviuosly going to come out ahead, and cities with huge civic boundries who's subways don't cross them are disqualified. Not much to debate.

I thought we were talking about how people in places far away from the central city can get home late at night. Like 20-30 miles from the urban core.
That is exactly what the thread was suppose to be about. Having a conversation about changes the country should make to provide service for the suburbs.
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Old 09-30-2011, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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NYC subway is 656 miles of revenue track and 842 miles of total track.

DC Metro is 106 miles of total track.
????? Marc and VRE?????
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Old 09-30-2011, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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????? Marc and VRE?????
MARC is excluded. It is closed on weekends.

VRE is only 90 miles of total track.
PATH is only 14 miles of total track as well, but over 10 times more ridership compared to VRE.
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Old 09-30-2011, 10:16 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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LIRR, NJ Transit, & The Path all operate 24/7.
So does the Philadelphia-South Jersey PATCO line.
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Old 09-30-2011, 11:02 AM
 
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holy crap 3 lines only run for 3 hours, that sucks.
That was the number of hours a day the trains DON'T run in Chicago. They run between 21 and 22.5 hours a day, and are shut down between 1.5 and 3 hours per day.
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Old 09-30-2011, 11:38 AM
 
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What lines are 24 hr on LIRR? I just chose a random station (Medford) and it didn't have anything close to 24hr service. I already know about the Path but that only services close in suburbs equivalent to DC's Arlington. It doesn't even come close to distances like Shady Grove (Gaithersburg MD).
Your letting municiple boundries get in the way...Lets say one wants to take the Red Line home after a night of drinking from Metro Center to Gaithersburg, that is a distance of 20 miles, and about as far as the Metro extends out. They can get home no problem.

Now, lets say a New Yorker, who is out drinking in the East Village, needs to get back to Pelham Bay Park in the Bronx, they can take the 6 train that runs 24/7 back home, that is also a distance of 20 miles, but yet they would never leave the limits of NYC.

Getting out to Jamaica or Far Rockaway (both in NYC city limits) is about the same distance as Metro Center to Gaithersburg (or anywhere on the Orange Line).
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Old 09-30-2011, 01:28 PM
 
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NYC subway is 656 miles of revenue track and 842 miles of total track.
LIRR is 594 miles of revenue track.

DC Metro is 106 miles of total track.

If you put DC "suburban metro" in NYC, it wouldn't even cover most of the land in city limits.
Dude, I don't know about that. NYC is only 330 square miles. PG County alone is 498 square miles. Get your facts right.

The track mileage is also a bit misleading. If you add up all of NYC's track mileage, it is definitely more than 800 miles but the original statement doesn't take into account the enormous number of track miles dedicated to triple and quadruple tracking of the same lines and routes. NYC has defunct stations and lines that are not even in service. BTW: I used to ride the G,F and GG trains everyday.
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Old 09-30-2011, 01:39 PM
 
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Your letting municiple boundries get in the way...Lets say one wants to take the Red Line home after a night of drinking from Metro Center to Gaithersburg, that is a distance of 20 miles, and about as far as the Metro extends out. They can get home no problem.

Now, lets say a New Yorker, who is out drinking in the East Village, needs to get back to Pelham Bay Park in the Bronx, they can take the 6 train that runs 24/7 back home, that is also a distance of 20 miles, but yet they would never leave the limits of NYC.

Getting out to Jamaica or Far Rockaway (both in NYC city limits) is about the same distance as Metro Center to Gaithersburg (or anywhere on the Orange Line).
I understand what you are trying to say but at least get your facts right homey. Metro Center to Gaithersburg is 27 miles. The East Village to City Island is 18 miles at best. Metro Center to Vienna is a better comparison.
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