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Old 12-05-2013, 12:12 AM
 
Location: London, U.K.
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You sound like you know things about Miami, Dallas, Houston, Atlanta, and Washington.

If you don't mind, could you entertain these questions. Seriously, I've been home searching for the last year and it feels like no where feels right yet.

If I were into food, how would you rank them on EVERYTHING. Quantity, quality, variety, and uniqueness?

If I were into nightlife catered by house/electonica/trance/techno/rock and to a way lesser extent Dubstep, how would you rank the five of them?

If I were into science museums, animal exhibits and museums, history museums (holocaust museum being a HUGE bonus), memorials, IMAX 3-D presentations at museums. How would you rank the five?

If I were into gothic architecture and any version of the victorians, then aside from Galveston, how would you rank the five?

If I were looking for a city that doesn't have too many idiots but at the same time doesn't feel like some geek fest, how would you rank the five?

If I were into my car and used it as a primary means of getting around BUT still liked the back up of a lengthy transit service, how would you rank them?

If I liked the variation of many large cities within a maximum of 300 miles, don't care for cities but they just need to be nearby and over a million, how would you rank them from the ones that have the most interesting around to least?

If I liked the weirdo things like seeing foreign flags, cultural enclaves, ethnic enclaves, historical enclaves, how would you rank the five?

Last but definitely not the least, if I were to say, hate most things Hipster (I'm talking like extremist ones in Portland) and more into the young professions, mellow and not "obsessed with mainstream" culture sort of place, how would you rank the five?

Also, how would you order the five based off which ones have the most standout/unique/weird/strange people based off culture and personality? I don't know why, I find this a major plus point to everywhere that meets this.

Seriously, is it this hard for everyone finding an ideal place or is it really just me?
L.A. fits every criteria you have but for some reason inferior cities like Miami and S.D. are higher on your priorities.

Not in the U.S. but I think you would enjoy living in Sydney or Melbourne.
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Old 12-05-2013, 12:31 AM
 
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NO.The City of Atlanta has been growing faster than the suburbs.So your info is old and outdated
http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/res...owthtable2.pdf


the biggest urban infrastructure projects in the U.S. have been in Atlanta.Such as the BeltLine but somehow you seem to think because Philly is finally growing again,its so desirable that it leads the nations more than Atlanta?Shows how much you don't know.
YES! I don't care about estimates, they are not accurate.

Atlanta city limits wise was expected to grow by about 150,000 people in the official census and it turns out they only gained about 4,000 from 2000 to 2010. I'm glad to see Atlanta turn around the city growth, but I don't believe estimates until it is official. Many cities had estimates totally off, Chicago was another city and NYC too.
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Old 12-05-2013, 05:38 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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This thread is annoying. Metro Atlanta growth is essentially city limit growth. It doesn't always matter that ppl lay their heads within the city limits (an addition to be counted in the city limits; it just doesn't add residential development, but it does increase infill), ppl still move to the metro to work and play in Atlanta. Stop making this horrible point. Thanks.
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Old 12-05-2013, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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YES! I don't care about estimates, they are not accurate.

Atlanta city limits wise was expected to grow by about 150,000 people in the official census and it turns out they only gained about 4,000 from 2000 to 2010. I'm glad to see Atlanta turn around the city growth, but I don't believe estimates until it is official. Many cities had estimates totally off, Chicago was another city and NYC too.
How convenient to be able to pick and choose what you are willing to believe when the facts speak against what you have to say.

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Among the metropolitan areas with sharp sharpest city growth advantages are Washington D.C., Denver and Atlanta, where annual city growth ramped up for 2010-2011 and exceeded suburb growth by about 1 percent. This contrasts with the 2000s decade when suburbs grew substantially faster than the suburbs in all three.
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Old 12-05-2013, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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How convenient to be able to pick and choose what you are willing to believe when the facts speak against what you have to say.

This is because Atlanta has 400,000 people population in the city. So when Atlanta gains 10,000 people, it is technically growing by a higher percentage. Philadelphia has 1.6 million people in the city, so when Philly gains 10,000 people, it is technically growing by a lower percentage. They are still gaining the same amount of people though.
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Old 12-05-2013, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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This is because Atlanta has 400,000 people population in the city. So when Atlanta gains 10,000 people, it is technically growing by a higher percentage. Philadelphia has 1.6 million people in the city, so when Philly gains 10,000 people, it is technically growing by a lower percentage. They are still gaining the same amount of people though.
Yeh..ok.LOL.I know how to read percentages and if this were the other way around and I said what you just said,I would have been laughed out of here.Your point is totally MOOT.

Still does not change the fact that the suburbs in Phillly are growing faster than the city.This is not true for Atlanta.The city IS growing faster than the suburbs.If you were to come to Atlanta you will see apartment high rises and condo's being built everywhere.There is a boom of this construction.Nine times out of ten its muti-family,mixed use.
Apartment Boom: Multi-family, mixed-use is the rage Intown - Atlanta INtown Paper

Even in the suburbs the construction is more multi purpose mixed use.More focus on urban walk-able communities.
People must be moving in the city for all this construction to be happening..
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Old 12-05-2013, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Yeh..ok.LOL.I know how to read percentages and if this were the other way around and I said what you just said,I would have been laughed out of here.Your point is totally MOOT.

Still does not change the fact that the suburbs in Phillly are growing faster than the city.This is not true for Atlanta.The city IS growing faster than the suburbs.If you were to come to Atlanta you will see apartment high rises and condo's being built everywhere.There is a boom of this construction.
Do you just blurt things out of your mouth without actually knowing what you are talking about?

Atlanta has a populaiton of 432,427... so when it gains 10,000 people it's going to have a larger % increase in population than who gains 10,000 people with 1,547,607 people. Is this to hard for you to comprehend?

Out of the entire Philadelphia Metro area, only 2 counties grew faster than Philadelphia... so how exactly are the Philadelphia suburbs growing faster??

Philadelphia Metro counties growth from 2010-2012
Kent County 3.3%
Chester County 1.5%
Philadelphia 1.4%
New Castle County 1.4%
Montgomery County 1.1%
Cecil County 0.6%
Burlington County 0.6%
Cumberland County 0.6%
Berks County 0.5%
Gloucester County 0.5%
Delaware County 0.4%
Bucks County 0.3%
Atlantic County 0.3%
Camden County 0%
Salem County -0.5%
Cape May County -1%
Philadelphia County QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau

Atlanta Metro counties growth from 2010-2012
Forsyth County 7.1%
Gwinnett County 4.6%
Fulton County (rest of county without Atlanta)- 3.8%
Cherokee County 3.3%
Hall County 3.2%
Cobb County 2.8%
Coweta County 2.8%
Clayton County 2.5%
Henry County 2.5%
Atlanta 2.4%
DeKalb County 2.2%
Paulding County 1.7%
Newton County 1.5%
Douglas County 1.3%
Barrow County 1.2%
Walton County 1.0%
Carrol County 0.9%
Fayette County 0.9%
Rockdale County 0.7%
Bartow County 0.5%
Dawson County 0.4%
Putnam County -0.1%
Spalding County -0.3%
Pike County -0.3%
Pickens County -0.5%
Butts County -0.6%
Haralson County -1.3%
Lamar County -1.4%
Heard County -1.7%
Jasper -1.9%
Meriwether County -3.3%
Walton County QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau


Atlanta has 9 suburban counties growing faster than the City of Atlanta. Philadelphia only has 2 counties growing faster than it.... so it seems like Atlanta is actually the one that has faster growing suburbs than the city. Also, Atlanta has 10 counties that lost population, what's up with that?
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Old 12-05-2013, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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If you were to come to Atlanta you will see apartment high rises and condo's being built everywhere.There is a boom of this construction.Nine times out of ten its muti-family,mixed use.
Apartment Boom: Multi-family, mixed-use is the rage Intown - Atlanta INtown Paper
If you come to Philadelphia, you would see that Philadelphia is also in a major highrise boom.

Boom Times in Center City - Housing Finance


Some residential projects happening in Philly

The Evo- 33 floors- 430 feet
http://hiddencityphila.org/wp-conten..._riverview.jpg

2116 Chestnut- 34 floors- 379 feet
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.n...05815693_n.jpg

1919 Market- 28 floors- 367 feet
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.n...79540471_n.jpg

3601 Market- 28 floors- 320 feet
http://southernland.com/wp-content/u.../09/Phili2.jpg

Morgan Hall- 27 floors- 312 feet
http://hiddencityphila.org/wp-conten...rasprofile.jpg

1213 Walnut- 26 floors- 294 feet
http://www.ten-arquitectos.com/publicaciones/58/1.1.jpg

Renaissance Plaza- two 292 foot towers- two 195 foot towers
http://planphilly.com/uploads/media_....752.360.c.jpg

Chinatown Eastern Tower- 24 floors- 282 feet
http://chinatown-pcdc.org/wp-content...ommunities.jpg

Lancaster Square- 25 floors- 279 feet
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-nJmmIp-kND...Picture+23.png

38Chestnut- 25 floors- 278 feet
http://cdn.phillymag.com/wp-content/...38chestnut.jpg

The Residences at Schmidt's- 25 and 15 floors
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1.../Schmidts1.jpg

Edgewater II- 22 floors- 260 feet
http://www.realen.com/gallery/projects/edgewater/05.jpg

Chestnut Square- 19 floors
https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/...55994449_n.jpg

The View at Montgomery- 14 floors- 214 feet
https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/...03213952_n.jpg

Museum Towers II- 16 floors
https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/...91267254_n.jpg

205 Race- 16 floors
http://planphilly.com/uploads/media_....481.519.s.jpg

1900 Arch- 14 floors
http://www.varenhorst.com/images/siz...04-979x700.jpg

2040 Market- 13 floors
http://buildingphilly.com/wp-content...507-130450.jpg

Marina View- 11 floors
http://planphilly.com/sites/planphil...MarinaView.jpg

Rodin Square- 10 floors
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.n...98471063_n.jpg

The Granary- 9 floors
http://nakedphilly.com/wp-content/up...9/IMG_5986.jpg

The Sansom- 8 floors
http://philly-sales.com/blog/wp-cont...iladelphia.jpg

Southstar Lofts- 7 floors
http://www.southstarlofts.com/userfi...19bb327fe2.jpg

Hill Square- 7 floors
http://nakedphilly.com/wp-content/up...e_cd_copyf.jpg
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Old 12-05-2013, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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Originally Posted by Summersm343 View Post
Do you just blurt things out of your mouth without actually knowing what you are talking about?

Atlanta has a populaiton of 432,427... so when it gains 10,000 people it's going to have a larger % increase in population than who gains 10,000 people with 1,547,607 people. Is this to hard for you to comprehend?

Out of the entire Philadelphia Metro area, only 2 counties grew faster than Philadelphia... so how exactly are the Philadelphia suburbs growing faster??

Philadelphia Metro counties growth from 2010-2012
Kent County 3.3%
Chester County 1.5%
Philadelphia 1.4%
New Castle County 1.4%
Montgomery County 1.1%
Cecil County 0.6%
Burlington County 0.6%
Cumberland County 0.6%
Berks County 0.5%
Gloucester County 0.5%
Delaware County 0.4%
Bucks County 0.3%
Atlantic County 0.3%
Camden County 0%
Salem County -0.5%
Cape May County -1%
Philadelphia County QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau

Atlanta Metro counties growth from 2010-2012
Forsyth County 7.1%
Gwinnett County 4.6%
Fulton County (rest of county without Atlanta)- 3.8%
Cherokee County 3.3%
Hall County 3.2%
Cobb County 2.8%
Coweta County 2.8%
Clayton County 2.5%
Henry County 2.5%
Atlanta 2.4%
DeKalb County 2.2%
Paulding County 1.7%
Newton County 1.5%
Douglas County 1.3%
Barrow County 1.2%
Walton County 1.0%
Carrol County 0.9%
Fayette County 0.9%
Rockdale County 0.7%
Bartow County 0.5%
Dawson County 0.4%
Putnam County -0.1%
Spalding County -0.3%
Pike County -0.3%
Pickens County -0.5%
Butts County -0.6%
Haralson County -1.3%
Lamar County -1.4%
Heard County -1.7%
Jasper -1.9%
Meriwether County -3.3%
Walton County QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau


Atlanta has 9 suburban counties growing faster than the City of Atlanta. Philadelphia only has 2 counties growing faster than it.... so it seems like Atlanta is actually the one that has faster growing suburbs than the city. Also, Atlanta has 10 counties that lost population, what's up with that?
I was trying to say that in comparison to Atlanta the city of Philly is growing at a slower rate.The difference is wider in Atlanta and its suburbs than Philly and its suburbs.thats what the chart clearly shows.

There are 28 cointies that make up metropolitan Atlanta.Not nine.
The population of Atlanta is 443,775.Talk about blurting out things.
Atlanta (city) QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau

Its a fact that no matter how you TRY to spin it,the city of Atlanta IS growing faster.Every publication out there states it as such.I guess the article I provided are lies?

Charlotte is bigger than Atlanta so whats your excuse for it to have similar growth?Not to mention other cities on the list.Stop making excuses.
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Old 12-05-2013, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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Originally Posted by Summersm343 View Post
If you come to Philadelphia, you would see that Philadelphia is also in a major highrise boom.

Boom Times in Center City - Housing Finance


Some residential projects happening in Philly

The Evo- 33 floors- 430 feet
http://hiddencityphila.org/wp-conten..._riverview.jpg

2116 Chestnut- 34 floors- 379 feet
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.n...05815693_n.jpg

1919 Market- 28 floors- 367 feet
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.n...79540471_n.jpg

3601 Market- 28 floors- 320 feet
http://southernland.com/wp-content/u.../09/Phili2.jpg

Morgan Hall- 27 floors- 312 feet
http://hiddencityphila.org/wp-conten...rasprofile.jpg

1213 Walnut- 26 floors- 294 feet
http://www.ten-arquitectos.com/publicaciones/58/1.1.jpg

Renaissance Plaza- two 292 foot towers- two 195 foot towers
http://planphilly.com/uploads/media_....752.360.c.jpg

Chinatown Eastern Tower- 24 floors- 282 feet
http://chinatown-pcdc.org/wp-content...ommunities.jpg

Lancaster Square- 25 floors- 279 feet
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-nJmmIp-kND...Picture+23.png

38Chestnut- 25 floors- 278 feet
http://cdn.phillymag.com/wp-content/...38chestnut.jpg

The Residences at Schmidt's- 25 and 15 floors
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1.../Schmidts1.jpg

Edgewater II- 22 floors- 260 feet
http://www.realen.com/gallery/projects/edgewater/05.jpg

Chestnut Square- 19 floors
https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/...55994449_n.jpg

The View at Montgomery- 14 floors- 214 feet
https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/...03213952_n.jpg

Museum Towers II- 16 floors
https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/...91267254_n.jpg

205 Race- 16 floors
http://planphilly.com/uploads/media_....481.519.s.jpg

1900 Arch- 14 floors
http://www.varenhorst.com/images/siz...04-979x700.jpg

2040 Market- 13 floors
http://buildingphilly.com/wp-content...507-130450.jpg

Marina View- 11 floors
http://planphilly.com/sites/planphil...MarinaView.jpg

Rodin Square- 10 floors
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.n...98471063_n.jpg

The Granary- 9 floors
http://nakedphilly.com/wp-content/up...9/IMG_5986.jpg

The Sansom- 8 floors
http://philly-sales.com/blog/wp-cont...iladelphia.jpg

Southstar Lofts- 7 floors
http://www.southstarlofts.com/userfi...19bb327fe2.jpg

Hill Square- 7 floors
http://nakedphilly.com/wp-content/up...e_cd_copyf.jpg
All that and it pails in comparison to the growth in Atlanta.

According to Emporis there are 38 buildings planned in Atlanta and 12 planned in Philly.
It does not differentiate what type of construction but most of it is residential as both cities are experiencing a renaissance.
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