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View Poll Results: Which is more urban?
Washington D.C. 21 14.48%
Philadelphia P.A. 124 85.52%
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Old 10-17-2013, 10:26 AM
 
Location: The City
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This... and even when walking around somewhere like Adams Morgan, the size of the street widths, size of the big houses and overall area is more spread out feeling and leafy than what you'll find in Philadelphia. Definitely more of a cozy neighborhood vibe.

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Adams...05.23,,0,-2.11

They are actually some really nice areas to live IMHO - like a little space yet quick to a lot and decent proximity to the Metro - I really like this styling in DC actually - In some ways sort of similar to parts of Chicago
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Old 10-17-2013, 10:31 AM
 
Location: The City
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That's a good thing, imo. The narrow streets are very charming in Center City, but downright terrifying in the Badlands.


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There is a lot of truth to this. Scary thing is that the accumulated population in these areas may be like 70% that of all of DC. I often wonder if some of these areas will ever be decent again. Though still urban none-the-less. Honestly the urban footprint iof Philly is likely 2+ times that of DC in this regard. Not all nice (actually far to much not nice) but urban and dense it is
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Old 10-17-2013, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Boston Metrowest (via the Philly area)
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This... and even when walking around somewhere like Adams Morgan, the size of the street widths, size of the big houses and overall area is more spread out feeling and leafy than what you'll find in Philadelphia. Definitely more of a cozy neighborhood vibe.
Yes, DC is definitely leafier in most areas (which is a plus), but Philly feels generally more intimate, though.

Here's a great example of an intimate (and leafy street) in South Philly:


https://maps.google.com/maps?q=South...188.99,,0,-0.2
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Old 10-17-2013, 10:55 AM
 
Location: roaming gnome
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Eh, I'm not too big on the very leafy hoods even in Chicago, if it's going to be wider streetplans, I like the urban congested look more so full of lofts and highrises.

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=chica...6.66,,0,-11.05

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=chica...4.54,,0,-14.63

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=chica...9.62,,0,-14.52

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=chica...93.21,,0,-9.49

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=chica...5.79,,0,-15.97

That's West Loop, South Loop, Gold Coast, Lincoln Park, Lakeview in order above...

or if neighborhoody, prefer it very dense and more intimate something like Philly or Boston (like what you posted above^)
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Old 10-17-2013, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Eh, I'm not too big on the very leafy hoods even in Chicago, if it's going to be wider streetplans, I like the urban congested look more so full of lofts and highrises.

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=chica...6.66,,0,-11.05

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=chica...4.54,,0,-14.63

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=chica...9.62,,0,-14.52

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=chica...93.21,,0,-9.49

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=chica...5.79,,0,-15.97

That's West Loop, South Loop, Gold Coast, Lincoln Park, Lakeview in order above...

or if neighborhoody, prefer it very dense and more intimate something like Philly or Boston (like what you posted above^)
I actually think Chicago and DC have a somewhat similar look (minus the extra talls in DC obviously).

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=woodl...12,207.92,,0,0

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=woodl...p=12,0.87,,0,0

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=woodl...12,350.25,,0,0

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=woodl...12,267.37,,0,0

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=woodl...12,276.11,,0,0

That's Adams-Morgan, Meridian Hill, Columbia Heights, Logan and Dupont in that order.
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Old 10-17-2013, 11:25 AM
 
Location: roaming gnome
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Yep, I like those areas of DC much more, but how much residential area of DC is like that? i.e. Columbia Heights/Logan Circle?
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Old 10-17-2013, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Yep, I like those areas of DC much more, but how much residential area of DC is like that? i.e. Columbia Heights/Logan Circle?
Mostly west of 14th Street, south of the Park and kinda cutting down at a southwesterly direction until you reach Georgetown. It's a bit hard to explain and unfortunately I don't know how to draw those boundaries on maps the way you do.

East of 14th Street becomes mostly rowhouses again. Though that's where much of the new development is concentrated.

There are also some highrise patches around Cleveland Park and Tenleytown. Once you turn off Connecticut or Wisconsin, however, you get a mixture of SFHs and rowhouses.
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Old 10-17-2013, 11:39 AM
 
Location: The City
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Mostly west of 14th Street, south of the Park and kinda cutting down at a southwesterly direction until you reach Georgetown. It's a bit hard to explain and unfortunately I don't know how to draw those boundaries on maps the way you do.

East of 14th Street becomes mostly rowhouses again. Though that's where much of the new development is concentrated.

There are also some highrise patches around Cleveland Park and Tenleytown. Once you turn off Connecticut or Wisconsin, however, you get a mixture of SFHs and rowhouses.

Maybe this area

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Old 10-17-2013, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Here's what I mean about Cleveland Park and Tenleytown, btw. You have a main drag that's pretty built up and urban looking like this.

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=washi...12,244.37,,0,0

And then step away a block or two and wind up here.

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=washi...57.34,,0,21.12

That's why I've always referred to that area of the city as suburban. It just has an urban veneer.
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Old 10-17-2013, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Yeah. That's about right.

Right now, the goal is to push more of that type of development to the east. 7th Street is getting some condo buildings that are pretty high for DC standards (higher than the ones you'll see pretty much anywhere else in the city). You'll also see it more around Union Station and H Street as well as a big condo boom around Chinatown.

But those neighborhoods just won't feel the same, imo. There's something about a neighborhood full of 1920s and 1930s apartment buildings that feels different from a neighborhood full of condo buildings circa 2011.
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