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I didn't include Logan Circle, Dupont Circle, Shaw, or Atlas District either which like I said in my earlier post would have to be included if you include U City. To be fair, take a look at the core I just posted and make a similar one for Philly as long as there are major development area's around rowhomes.
I did I posted it earlier
And your 25 miles seems vastly more genrous than mine. I kept it pretty strict and excluded any whole none developed or rowhouse nabe.
Those areas in the east you posted are street after street of rowhomes- agaon no issue but think it goes against your initial take. There is NOT 25 sq miles of the developemnt you describe in DC, probably 10 ore less TBH even after the new projects in the SE
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??????Which buildings are you talking about? All of the SW Government complex is getting redeveloped with residential. The FBI building is getting redeveloped with residential. Which area are you talking about? Also, if you go back and read, I clearly stated D.C. will never have Manhattan vibrancy, I was saying it will be swallowed by large buildings and yes, they will have retail and tons of residential.
Wow, that's impressive if they're going to start tearing down or retrofitting the office buildings in downtown on a wide scale. Is it a consolidated effort or is it a one off here and there? These are what I was thinking when I read grapico's post:
Wow, that's impressive if they're going to start tearing down or retrofitting the office buildings in downtown on a wide scale. Is it a consolidated effort or is it a one off here and there? These are what I was thinking when I read grapico's post:
As long as there is no security issue with having street fronting retail, they will have it. Buildings in D.C. get redeveloped more often than other cities because of the height limit. You can't build taller and downtown D.C. is built out, so developers raze buildings and build class A space or residential highrises and include 2013 techniques that were not practiced in 1970 like street fronting retail etc. I know SW is getting completely changed and many class B buildings are thinking about going residential. Over the next 20 years, much like Center City did from 1990-2010, D.C. too will convert buildings to residential.
And your 25 miles seems vastly more genrous than mine. I kept it pretty strict and excluded any whole none developed or rowhouse nabe.
Those areas in the west you posted are street after street of rowhomes- agaon no issue but think it goes against your initial take. There is NOT 25 sq miles of the developemnt you describe in DC, probably 10 ore less TBH even after the new projects in the SE
You posted an area that is on the other side of a river. Also, if you go back and read what I said in the post after that, I said we can't get around row homes, so I said if you can show me an area in Philly that has major developments every few blocks intertwined with row homes, we can call that the core and compare them.
Also, if you include U City, then D.C. should include Poplar Point, Barry Farm's Redevelopment, St. Elizabeth Redevelopment, Anacostia Redevelopment, etc. etc. etc.
You posted an area that is on the other side of a river. Also, if you go back and read what I said in the post after that, I said we can't get around row homes, so I said if you can show me an area in Philly that has major developments every few blocks intertwined with row homes, we can call that the core and compare them.
Also, if you include U City, then D.C. should include Poplar Point, Barry Farm's Redevelopment, St. Elizabeth Redevelopment, Anacostia Redevelopment, etc. etc. etc.
the river situation is far different - its 30 seconds from CC to U City and is actually filling in right on the water as we speak
The mall is a more significant barrier than is the river that sperates Philly and CC
Are you really suggesting all the areas you are discussing and excluding U City - seems you make the rules as you go along - regardless I agree the footprint covered by what you say is larger in DC - just not as large or as different as you suggest
Would you consider River North or the Mag Mile in Chicago not DT or an extension because of the river?
the river situation is far different - its 30 seconds from CC to U City and is actually filling in right on the water as we speak
The mall is a more significant barrier than is the river that sperates Philly and CC
Are you really suggesting all the areas you are discussing and excluding U City - seems you make the rules as you go along - regardless I agree the footprint covered by what you say is larger in DC - just not as large or as different as you suggest
Would you consider River North or the Mag Mile in Chicago not DT or an extension because of the river?
My point is, there are only four ways to get to U City from Center City. Four sidewalks. How can you include that as a part of Center City? Also, I don't see Central Park hurting Manhattan. Shoot, at least D.C. has museums and monuments on the national mall. Central Park is just nature. I think they are both great and add to both areas. My point is not about not having any open space, it's that for cities like Baltimore and Philadelphia, it becomes ALL row homes for miles. Not pockets a few streets then back to buildings, but just row homes.
Also, how am I making the rules as I go along? I didn't include those area's till you decided U City should be included with Center City which is nothing other than Poplar Point/St. Elizabeth in D.C. You are the one that seems to be changing as you go trying to pad Center City stats.
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