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I have never heard of Melrose or Robertson either, and Rodeo Dr. only rings a slight bell...
Are you serious? Rodeo Drive is the most famous retail street in the U.S. outside of Manhattan.
Honestly, it's a short street and isn't super interesting, but it's unquestionably globally renowned. Rodeo Drive is absolutely iconic as a retail street.
And Melrose is more famous than any retail street in Chicago too. Referenced on Melrose Place, LA Ink, Entourage, etc. Definitely not my types of shows, but you can't argue it isn't famous.
No, it's definitely true. I lived in SM for about a year (around '06) and it has been a problem. The Pier attracts an unsavory crowd. There have been gang shootings on and near the Pier.
That's why the SM crowd doesn't go there. Too many tourists in the day, and gangbanger wanna-bes at night.
I've seen the Santa Monica pier in plenty of films and music videos, can't really recall much of Navy Pier. Before going to Chicago I had never heard of Navy Pier but knew of Santa Monica Pier, Santa Monica Boulevard, and Coney Island...not really a pier but... kind of like that. Chicago just isn't in the media all that much. Growing up outside the midwest entirely, the biggest Chicago was ever in the media for was by far Michael Jordan and the Bulls. I knew about all of these things probably when I was 10, but probably couldn't tell you what Chicago even looked like, most definitely had an idea of NYC and LA though. I remember the first time I went to Chicago I was really thrown back at it as I just had no concept of it to go off of. The first times in NYC and LA, even SF, Vegas and Miami, I had quite a few preconceived notions of what it would be like. Of course at this time, Millenium Park did not exist.
Bro I didn't even know what the mag mile or millennium park was til I heard it on CD, outside of the Midwest I doubt most people have heard of those either, isn't this about which city is more iconic/famous? So with that in mind Rodeo Dr >>> Mag mile Griffith Park >> Millennium park, hell now that I think about it Mag Mile is not even more iconic than Melrose or Robertson either.
The Magnificent Mile and Millennium Park are pretty awesome. If you ever see them for yourself, I bet you'll be impressed.
I'm still not sure Chicago is such a name brand city nationally and thus, iconic. From personal experience, many people outside Chicago and midwest (wrongly) do not view it that highly. Out of the people I grew up with in h.s. and college (100s of people), I know of nobody but myself who moved to Chicago...where as I know quite a few people (in multiples) who moved to NYC, DC, Boston, Atlanta, LA, SF, Seattle, San Diego, Miami, Austin, Portland. While I think many of these people might have certainly enjoyed Chicago, there is a general ignorance about it, thus I can't really put it high up being "iconic" for most anything. I think Obama in 2008 might have changed this perception though and put Chicago in more of a spotlight...
Actually I take that back, I do know one other person but that was b/c they went to Northwestern, but I know they left right after that.
I'm still not sure Chicago is such a name brand city nationally and thus, iconic. From personal experience, many people outside Chicago and midwest (wrongly) do not view it that highly. Out of the people I grew up with in h.s. and college (100s of people), I know of nobody but myself who moved to Chicago...where as I know quite a few people (in multiples) who moved to NYC, DC, Boston, Atlanta, LA, SF, Seattle, San Diego, Miami, Austin, Portland. While I think many of these people might have certainly enjoyed Chicago, there is a general ignorance about it, thus I can't really put it high up being "iconic" for most anything. I think Obama in 2008 might have changed this perception though and put Chicago in more of a spotlight...
Actually I take that back, I do know one other person but that was b/c they went to Northwestern, but I know they left right after that.
I grew up on the West Coast, and I have to agree. Chicago is not one of those cities that jumps out in the American imagination -- there is a general ignorance about it. This is a real shame. I have been to almost every major US city, and Chicago is my favorite. The only city that offers more is NYC, but Chicago is even better IMO. Los Angeles is more iconic, but LA is kind of a let down to be honest. You always hear about it, but once you see it, you think .. meh. Chicago on the other hand .... it's just such an awesome place with some of the nation's best museums, waterfront, architecture, food scene, shopping, etc. -- in the Midwest of all places.
I take it you've never seen the Beverly Hillbillies, Beverly Hills 90210, Melrose Place, Beverly Hills Cop I/II/III, Beverly Hills Ninja, Pretty Woman, countless movies set in L.A. and also have never flipped to E! or any fashion show for more than 5 minutes, or seen Joan Rivers talk more than 30 seconds. Rodeo drive is *Extremely* well known allover the world.
No, it's definitely true. I lived in SM for about a year (around '06) and it has been a problem. The Pier attracts an unsavory crowd. There have been gang shootings on and near the Pier.
That's why the SM crowd doesn't go there. Too many tourists in the day, and gangbanger wanna-bes at night.
It is absolutely iconic, though.
It's definately not true. This is 2013 not 06. Many touristy spots around the world are avoided by locals, that's nothing new. An unsavory crowd is completely and absolutely false.
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