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Old 06-23-2015, 10:58 AM
 
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So the only cities that have been agreed on are Oklahoma City, Colorado Springs, and Jacksonville?
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Old 06-23-2015, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Tampa - St. Louis
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We're talking about cities... NOT metro.

The only major city in Texas that's even close to being conservative is Fort Worth, and like I said earlier, it's more moderate. And I don't know what it's like in St. Louis, but in DFW, the suburbs have little influence on Dallas or Fort Worth.
Well Dallas and Houston make up a much larger percent of their regional populations than St. Louis. Why do you think Dallas and Houston have such conservative suburbs that it makes the metro leaning conservative in comparison to many other large metros? With such a high percentage of transplants and really diverse populations, I would expect the metros to be at least moderately liberal. St. Louis has some really conservative suburbs, is not really diverse by national standards, and is a slow growth region but it looks like it has much different metro politics.
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Old 06-23-2015, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Bottom line is this. If you are conservative and go to DFW and Houston suburbs and expect conservative areas, you'll get it. If you are conservative and move to the cities of Dallas and Houston itself, prepare to be disappointed.
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Old 06-23-2015, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Augusta GA
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If going by city limits only, Abeline TX takes the cake. In both the 2008 and 2012 elections, not a single precinct went Democrat in the entire city (not even downtown). Honorable mention would go to Provo UT. For overall metro areas though, it does not get more conservative than exurbs in the Deep South.
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Old 06-23-2015, 05:07 PM
 
Location: A subtropical paradise
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Well Dallas and Houston make up a much larger percent of their regional populations than St. Louis. Why do you think Dallas and Houston have such conservative suburbs that it makes the metro leaning conservative in comparison to many other large metros? With such a high percentage of transplants and really diverse populations, I would expect the metros to be at least moderately liberal. St. Louis has some really conservative suburbs, is not really diverse by national standards, and is a slow growth region but it looks like it has much different metro politics.
Because, low voter turn-out:
No Shows: Why So Few Texans Bother to Vote - The Texas Observer
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Old 06-23-2015, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Atlanta Metro Area (OTP North)
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But don't go thinking that Dallas and Houston are conservative based on the rest of the metro area.
Maybe things have changed very recently, but I've always experienced Dallas to be very conservative...and super religious

Note: I grew up in Texas and have been to Dallas eleventy billion times
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Old 06-23-2015, 10:40 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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SLC is far from conservative. It's become the place that all of the liberals in the state flee to. The mayor and all but one of the seven city council members are Democrats. The city hasn't had a Republican mayor since 1974
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The metropolitan area is still rather conservative. That's a better way to compare IMO.

Political orientation is strongly correlated with distance from the city center. Population density is also a good predictor too. The only exceptions to this pattern are the Black Belt in the South and interior New England, which are generally liberal despite being predominantly rural.
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I think this map says a lot and is a pretty accurate measure of metro conservativeness.
SLC is not known as some bastion of liberalism, either. See the map.

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Colorado Springs should be on this conservative list. It is a military town that has a strong religious influence. Its nickname is the Evangelical Vatican.
I've lived in Colorado 35 years, and I never heard it called that. It has its liberals.

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So the only cities that have been agreed on are Oklahoma City, Colorado Springs, and Jacksonville?
No, I disagree with Colorado Springs. The mayor was happy to see Obama when they had all those fires a few years ago. Of course, he wanted $$, but that's not a conservative thing, either.
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Old 06-23-2015, 11:07 PM
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Location: Fort Worth
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Maybe things have changed very recently, but I've always experienced Dallas to be very conservative...and super religious

Note: I grew up in Texas and have been to Dallas eleventy billion times
"Dallas" as in Dallas or "Dallas" as in McKinney, Plano, Irving, Garland, etc...?

Because Dallas hasn't been a genuinely conservative city in a long time. No it's not San Francisco, but it sure as hell isn't Crawford.
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Old 06-23-2015, 11:28 PM
 
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Bottom line is this. If you are conservative and go to DFW and Houston suburbs and expect conservative areas, you'll get it. If you are conservative and move to the cities of Dallas and Houston itself, prepare to be disappointed.
Dallas has smaller city limits than Houston, but I'm sure you could find conservative areas, especially on the North side. Houston city limits are huge, and while inside the loop is moderate to liberal, there are big areas of the city which are very conservative. The Northwest side/council district A is conservative and has plenty of tea party types. Kingwood and Clear Lake are pretty conservative as well, all within city limits. Houston is too ethnically diverse within city limits for the city to be completely dominated by conservatives, but most of the predominantly white areas outside the loop are just as conservative as the Woodlands or Katy. If you are conservative and move to those areas of the city, you won't be disappointed.
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Old 06-23-2015, 11:28 PM
 
Location: Atlanta Metro Area (OTP North)
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"Dallas" as in Dallas or "Dallas" as in McKinney, Plano, Irving, Garland, etc...?

Because Dallas hasn't been a genuinely conservative city in a long time. No it's not San Francisco, but it sure as hell isn't Crawford.
No I mean the city of Dallas, but again it may very well be different now. I do video work on the side and we were there at the Galleria on a job a few months ago. I didn't get a chance to check out the city like I used to partly because of schedule constraints and also because the whole city was under construction.

Its been about 12 or 13 years since the "growing up in Texas" part of my life so maybe I need to make time to check out the new liberal Dallas...if it does actually exist
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