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I have a higher QOL of life in Miami (Beach) than any place I lived. Ocean breezes, watching lightening over the ocean from my balcony, going swimming everyday, boating, jet skiing whenever I want, enjoying a nice glass of wine to a warm night overlooking the atlantic. This place is heaven if you know how to make money. If you don't then no where is heaven. Life sucks being poor, everywhere. But it's better to be well off here than Ohio that's for sure. And poor here too, at least you won't freeze.
Just because you do doesn't mean most people do
Besides I know how to make money, I live in Portland which is more expensive than Miami
We're getting real nitpicky if we're saying that Australia isn't a warmer climate... and then disregarding Singapore and Hong Kong... and then claiming that Southern European countries are significantly worse than Northern ones (although there's no question that Scandinavian countries have the highest standard of life). The eurozone countries to fail at repaying their government debt were Greece, Cyprus, Spain, Portugal, and Ireland, plus Iceland's banking system failed. So that's 2 Southern European countries, and 4 Western ones, 2 of which are in the North. Plus you have Russia, Eastern Europe, and Central Asia, none of which are great QOL.
...so what I'm saying is the cold weather theory doesn't have much merit.
The realtors disagree with you.... average home in Portland metro is 258k average in Miami is 185k
Like I said, ghettoes. We have more of them. But our areas fit to live are more than expensive than yours. You can't buy a home in my area unless you want to spend around a 1 million. Now take a look at those sales, and find me one condo in Portland that sold for almost 30 million You'd probably not even be able to find a condo that sold for 3 million in Portland let alone 30 million.
They are not, no one moves to a cold place for her climate. For jobs, sure. For family, sure. People move to warm climates just to be warm, Florida is an example. People come here without jobs, without hope of finding jobs, just to live where it's warm. If Florida was located where Ohio was, and had the same economy as we do now, we'd have 1/2 to 1/3 as many people. If you went ahead and moved Ohio to where Florida is now, you'd have a lot more people too.
Right now the three largest states in the USA are warm weather ones: California, Texas, and Florida.
I'm sure there are a few people who may move to colder climates because they prefer that to heat, and vice versa. But you're absolutely wrong to think that most people move for weather in either direction. You're also wrong to believe that most people can simply pack up and move cross-country without any job prospects lined up. They will either have to have significant savings or family/friend connections already established to help them out until they can find work. Even so, actual mobility surveys show again and again that people put economic and family reasons as the #1 reason to relocate, followed by education. Change of climate was cited less than 1% of all responses.
So why doesn't Mississippi have 10-20 million? Alabama? Louisiana? SC? Tennessee? All are warmer than Ohio, yet have much less population. Why are these exceptions? Only 2 Southern states have higher population than Ohio: Texas and Florida. This doesn't support your argument whatsoever.
Further, several Southern states actually have a net loss TO Ohio in terms of domestic migration. How do you explain that?
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You'd probably not even be able to find a condo that sold for 3 million in Portland let alone 30 million.
