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So every transplant heavy city in the South is no longer Southern?
By the way, I know plenty of natives and current residents of Jacksonville who do not hesitate to say it is Southern.
Jacksonville is a Florida city with southern undertones. Florida has a distinct culture than the rest of the southern US with it's history, customs, demographics, etc.
Is Jacksonville southern compared to Orlando or West Palm Beach? Sure, I can see that. Is Jacksonville southern like Birmingham or Charleston? Absolutely not.
Just because Jacksonville is conservative by Florida standards and as a high Baptist population doesn't mean it's full blown southern and everyone goes around claiming to be a southerner. It's a Florida city at heart.
I'm assuming he's referring to Chicago to Detroit which you know have lots of migrants from the south and retain some of those cultural elements even today.
Jacksonville is a Florida city with southern undertones. Florida has a distinct culture than the rest of the southern US with it's history, customs, demographics, etc.
Is Jacksonville southern compared to Orlando or West Palm Beach? Sure, I can see that. Is Jacksonville southern like Birmingham or Charleston? Absolutely not.
Just because Jacksonville is conservative by Florida standards and as a high Baptist population doesn't mean it's full blown southern and everyone goes around claiming to be a southerner. It's a Florida city at heart.
Being a Florida city and being a Southern city are not mutually exclusive.
Just because a city isn't Southern like X or Y city doesn't mean it's not actually Southern. And Charleston is actually more similar to Jacksonville than Birmingham, so I guess it's not really Southern either.
But anyway, we're digressing; none of these cities are the topic of discussion.
I'm assuming he's referring to Chicago to Detroit which you know have lots of migrants from the south and retain some of those cultural elements even today.
That's two cities. He said "many" so I'm expecting a pretty extensive list and calling either of those cities "far northern" is pretty debatable. I'd apply that term to the Upper Midwest and New England and neither would fit the bill.
Being a Florida city and being a Southern city are not mutually exclusive.
Just because a city isn't Southern like X or Y city doesn't mean it's not actually Southern. And Charleston is actually more similar to Jacksonville than Birmingham, so I guess it's not really Southern either.
But anyway, we're digressing; none of these cities are the topic of discussion.
Jacksonville and Charleston similar? Charleston is a small, historic city full of charming older homes and buildings. Jacksonville is the largest city by landmass with high skycrapers and home of well-to-do private sector business like BoA headquarters and Mayo Clinic. Jax is also home to three fortune 500 companies and an NFL team. The cities aren't even comparable when it comes to amenities and demographics.
I can see some similarities between Charleston and St. Augustine with it's historic district, but not Jax and Charleston.
I never said Birmingham and Charleston are similar, but they are inevitably more southern than Jax.
I stand by what I say as a resident of the Jax metro. Jax is a Florida city with a southern tone rather than just distinctly southern. Florida has a mutually distinct culture than the rest of the southern US.
Jacksonville and Charleston similar? Charleston is a small, historic city full of charming older homes and buildings. Jacksonville is the largest city by landmass with high skycrapers and home of well-to-do private sector business like BoA headquarters and Mayo Clinic. Jax is also home to three fortune 500 companies and an NFL team. The cities aren't even comparable when it comes to amenities and demographics.
I can see some similarities between Charleston and St. Augustine with it's historic district, but not Jax and Charleston.
I never said Birmingham and Charleston are similar, but they are inevitably more southern than Jax.
I stand by what I say as a resident of the Jax metro. Jax is a Florida city with a southern tone rather than just distinctly southern. Florida has a mutually distinct culture than the rest of the southern US.
I'm leaving this right where it is because all of these posts will get deleted since they are off-topic.
Getting back to topic, none of these cities are southern other than Atlanta since it resides in Georgia.
I'm baffled when people call Texas the south. Like Florida, it does have southern influences in some regions but Texas to me has it's own distinct culture with it's history and demographics.
Florida has already been discussed here. Northern Florida has some southern undertones but the state historically has little to no ties with the south. As stated, Miami was established by northerners as a tourist destination.
As other posters stated, Houston has more Cajun influences than mainstream southern influences. I never lived there, but from visiting my cousin and hearing her input, Dallas seems to have more influence from southern great plain states rather than southeastern US.
I don't know who would ever think DC is more southern than Atlanta at this day in age.
A better comparison would be Atlanta vs. Raleigh, Nashville, and Richmond. Those cities all reside in true southern culture states and have a lot of transplants from other regions.
That's one (and I can't attest to the validity of Milwaukee since I've never been there). I'm waiting for this extensive list of "many far northern cities."
Hmm, so if Florida isn't Southern, what is it then?
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Charleston is a small, historic city full of charming older homes and buildings. Jacksonville is the largest city by landmass with high skycrapers and home of well-to-do private sector business like BoA headquarters and Mayo Clinic. Jax is also home to three fortune 500 companies and an NFL team. The cities aren't even comparable when it comes to amenities and demographics. 
