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The most crime ridden parts of Chicago are among the most crime ridden areas on earth. There are large swaths of land on the south and west sides that even if they don’t have the majority if the homicides they have unacceptably high crime rates. I would say 40% of Chicago’s square mileage is unacceptably crime ridden.
Latin American cities have the highest murder rates in the world. I just wanted to educate you because you are clueless.
There are around 30 neighborhoods in Chicago with homicide rates of 30 or higher with highest rates over 100. These neighborhoods represent a huge square mileage. These rates are very comparable with the Latin American cities you refer to. Educate me more
There are around 30 neighborhoods in Chicago with homicide rates of 30 or higher with highest rates over 100. These neighborhoods represent a huge square mileage. These rates are very comparable with the Latin American cities you refer to. Educate me more
You clearly have a agenda and probably political.
But the stereotype is that Chicago is a blighted crime infested ghetto to some extremist. Who mock any liberal city. But people who ACTUALLY VISIT see a totally other side.
Sometimes agendas skew everything to people. These arguments are too common in the political forums that I can't see truly patriotic Americans want these views to smear a entire city as a liberal fail.
But clearly two cities in one exist sadly in Chicago and is common many America cities ..... even in the sunbelt. Clearly, nothing would change anything for you. Our divisions keep expanding in this Nation sadly.
But the stereotype is that Chicago is a blighted crime infested ghetto to some extremist. Who mock any liberal city. But people who ACTUALLY VISIT see a totally other side.
Sometimes agendas skew everything to people. These arguments are too common in the political forums that I can't see truly patriotic Americans want these views to smear a entire city as a liberal fail.
But clearly two cities in one exist sadly in Chicago and is common many America cities ..... even in the sunbelt. Clearly, nothing would change anything for you. Our divisions keep expanding in this Nation sadly.
Outsiders see Kansas City as a cow town with hicks when in reality it's an artsy mid sized city. I've lived here for years and have never seen a cow outside of a petting zoo or a farm when road tripping out of the city.
People just don't get it: the North Side and the South Side (and the suburbs emanating from each) are two different world.
If you take the Chicago of downtown, the Chicago of the surrounding areas pushed west to the United Center/Med Center and south to McCromick Place and even Bronzeville and Bridgeport, the Chicago fo the lakefront (lakefront seen as a link between the McCormcik Place area and down to very successful U of C "college town" Hyde Park (no, it's a neighborhood) and the whole of the vast North, Northwest sides what do you have....
basically an overgrown San Francisco or Boston, a global city that is totally comfortable with the other global cities in America, the others all being coastal (coastal zone actually) from New York, Boston and Washington on the east to Los Angeles and San Francisco on the west.
The murder capital of Chicagoland is centered on a few neighborhoods on the southwest side. Very few north siders could pick them out on a map or, for that matter, even know their names.
Chicago is the same racial tragedy of all American cities because, well....it's America. We discriminate, we marginalize, we make some of us masters of the universe and others are cast off, virtually invisible.
Yes, we have a tragically high number of murders (but all murder rates are tragic....and every US city has them) although our murder rate puts us well down the list of that category. Yes, most of the shooters and the shootees are African American. And those in the ghettoes of the south and west sides are neither seen or heard nor talked about.....except when the kill each other and raise Chicago's murder count and affect our PR.
Those in the emerald city of Chicago I identified as above do fret about these murders....but not because they care about the victims (generally, they don't), but because they care about the city's image (and even the image issue doesn't bother us that much....we don't get all that defensive about Chicago because frankly we know (believe) we are a truly great city and we feel good about ourselves....we also know that as a liberal city, we are the conservatives' punching bag, getting the same "love" from them that San Francisco gets for pretty much the same reason).
Fact is, in the new Chicago (a boom town if ever there was one....the crane is our civic bird), there is no place for the poor, for the less educated. Chicago bleeds black population (it's the inordinant number of American Americans leaving the city that brings down the total population. Meanwhile, as in all "successful" US cities, it is the white population, the right kind of whites I should say, that grows.
And sure, that leaving of Chicago has a natural component to it. But it also has a policy component as well....and I don't think there is any doubt that Mayor Rahm is trying (successfully) to remove the minority populations on the south nd west sides. That's America, folks.
So I can laugh (though there is nothing funny) at the Chicago stereotypes because the Chicago I see is an incredible city, arguably the best big city in the nation (it's an opinion, just an opinion, but it's my opinion...and I'm sticking to it)......and that "other" Chicago is "out there" (where? I supposed the answer would be "somewhere") one I never see. And that is to our shame, not credit.
People just don't get it: the North Side and the South Side (and the suburbs emanating from each) are two different world.
If you take the Chicago of downtown, the Chicago of the surrounding areas pushed west to the United Center/Med Center and south to McCromick Place and even Bronzeville and Bridgeport, the Chicago fo the lakefront (lakefront seen as a link between the McCormcik Place area and down to very successful U of C "college town" Hyde Park (no, it's a neighborhood) and the whole of the vast North, Northwest sides what do you have....
basically an overgrown San Francisco or Boston, a global city that is totally comfortable with the other global cities in America, the others all being coastal (coastal zone actually) from New York, Boston and Washington on the east to Los Angeles and San Francisco on the west.
The murder capital of Chicagoland is centered on a few neighborhoods on the southwest side. Very few north siders could pick them out on a map or, for that matter, even know their names.
Chicago is the same racial tragedy of all American cities because, well....it's America. We discriminate, we marginalize, we make some of us masters of the universe and others are cast off, virtually invisible.
Yes, we have a tragically high number of murders (but all murder rates are tragic....and every US city has them) although our murder rate puts us well down the list of that category. Yes, most of the shooters and the shootees are African American. And those in the ghettoes of the south and west sides are neither seen or heard nor talked about.....except when the kill each other and raise Chicago's murder count and affect our PR.
Those in the emerald city of Chicago I identified as above do fret about these murders....but not because they care about the victims (generally, they don't), but because they care about the city's image (and even the image issue doesn't bother us that much....we don't get all that defensive about Chicago because frankly we know (believe) we are a truly great city and we feel good about ourselves....we also know that as a liberal city, we are the conservatives' punching bag, getting the same "love" from them that San Francisco gets for pretty much the same reason).
Fact is, in the new Chicago (a boom town if ever there was one....the crane is our civic bird), there is no place for the poor, for the less educated. Chicago bleeds black population (it's the inordinant number of American Americans leaving the city that brings down the total population. Meanwhile, as in all "successful" US cities, it is the white population, the right kind of whites I should say, that grows.
And sure, that leaving of Chicago has a natural component to it. But it also has a policy component as well....and I don't think there is any doubt that Mayor Rahm is trying (successfully) to remove the minority populations on the south nd west sides. That's America, folks.
So I can laugh (though there is nothing funny) at the Chicago stereotypes because the Chicago I see is an incredible city, arguably the best big city in the nation (it's an opinion, just an opinion, but it's my opinion...and I'm sticking to it)......and that "other" Chicago is "out there" (where? I supposed the answer would be "somewhere") one I never see. And that is to our shame, not credit.
Probably as many times as necessary.... if people just dwell on negatives and a total liberal city fail. Both sides exist sadly in American cities. It is true though ..... if you do not live in a hood. You never go there in such a big city as Chicago. I never did, when living there a couple decades ago.
Most north siders don't seem to have ever gone below Roosevelt (despite their supposed liberalism) let alone tourists. And if they have, hyde park.
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