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I think Chicago is mighty and great, definitely more urban than all the above. However I think it is destined to completely drop out of the 3rd spot in each of the three MSA, CSA, and city proper.
Dallas will pass it in 25 years by MSA, no question. Houston by city in 5 years most likely, and CSA we might as well chalk up as pretty much done already.
Chicago is a great city but its city population will continue to decline. It wouldn't surprise me if Philly surpasses its population by 2050.
The two MSA's combined are less than 500k short of Chicago's MSA. This is only using core counties of the adjacent touching metro areas. You do know that the CSA number inflates it to be basically equal to Chicago's CSA population, today. But I'm not even taking in all those extra Micropolitan areas added on the CSA.
Chicago's MSA is almost 11,000 sq miles and 9.5 million people
DC+ Baltimore MSA (Non CSA boundaries) is about 8,500 sq miles and 9 million people, today. And growing 10 times faster.
As far as comparisons go, I have long said this is apples to oranges, one is a single city metro, the other is poly centric, DC-Baltimore-NOVA.
Why do people forget that Chicago's urban area is at 9.1 million people in 2600 square miles? Honesty, the only 2 cities in North America that have a chance to become real mega-cities by world standards in the near future are Chicago and Toronto. The Bay Area and DC are just pretenders.
Chicago is a great city but its city population will continue to decline. It wouldn't surprise me if Philly surpasses its population by 2050.
I don't think Chicago ss going to lose another million people in 30 years. I'm sure Philadelphia will have been surpassed by another half a dozen cities by then though.
Why do people forget that Chicago's urban area is at 9.1 million people in 2600 square miles? Honesty, the only 2 cities in North America that have a chance to become real mega-cities by world standards in the near future are Chicago and Toronto. The Bay Area and DC are just pretenders.
Okay that's impressive but once you start going over 3,000 square miles, some of those other cities start to close the population gap.
I don't think Chicago ss going to lose another million people in 30 years. I'm sure Philadelphia will have been surpassed by another half a dozen cities by then though.
Chicago won't lose over a million people but given that Philly is growing at its fastest rate in over 60 years will just have to wait and see.
I don't think Chicago ss going to lose another million people in 30 years. I'm sure Philadelphia will have been surpassed by another half a dozen cities by then though.
And Chicago will be surpassed by a few to several notches by then as well.
And Chicago will be surpassed by a few to several notches by then as well.
Please tell us how you know this. Not taking into account, cities that have water issues, cities getting too expensive, etc. Please share your source...all-knowing, Kamms.
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Why do people forget that Chicago's urban area is at 9.1 million people in 2600 square miles? Honesty, the only 2 cities in North America that have a chance to become real mega-cities by world standards in the near future are Chicago and Toronto. The Bay Area and DC are just pretenders.
Try 2038 sq mi for DC and Baltimore's once it is combined as an urban area. Today they remain separate on paper, but I expect this to change within 10 years. They would still be short of Chicago however still around 7.5 million UA combined (if combined today). Their Urban Agglomeration (a different definition) is higher at 8.5 million.
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