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Chicago is a great city but its city population will continue to decline. It wouldn't surprise me if Philly surpasses its population by 2050.
lol the kool-aid is strong tonight. Chicago has over a million more residents than Philly, and while Chicago is barely growing, Philly isn’t growing by leaps and bounds, either, and it has a lot of the same problems as Chicago. This is just wishful homerism at its finest.
Please tell us how you know this. Not taking into account, cities that have water issues, cities getting too expensive, etc. Please share your source...all-knowing, Kamms.
And Chicago will be surpassed by a few to several notches by then as well.
Philly just started adding some people. What it is .... is it isn't losing its African-American population like Chicago. Staying steady. The Midwest/Great Lakes region .... stands a GREAT chance for future growth. Chicago's street-grid is one of the best in the Nation and parts of its gang-infested areas where population is declining. It still has great housing stock and where much blight was cleared out thru the 90s. (something Philly did little of) its street-grid and empty ltd are awaiting its renewal eventually.
Of course you know Chicago you lived a bit. You always found a way to lessen it. But complement your hometown of Cleveland and now in Philly you say little good of in in the Philly forum. .
But you made a choice and any city you make the most of your time there.
But adding hundreds to a couple thousand after years and decades of declines when even Chicago was adding..... really is no booming gonna surpass you/gun ho growth to make up millions. You know that as not stupid. Just the only comeback you could make and they took your bait.
I surely wish Philly well and to continue any positive growth it started. But Chicago WILL continue its transformation .... not all good but in losses overall. But gaining a highly educated % over those leaving. More blight removed improved its aesthetics that shows.
Chicago's credit is in its core especially ..... it just has clearly made soooo many great choices. It continues to rate highly on C-D and threads it is in.
DC region is growing steadily. You as a Philadelphian now. Watch and worry about the DC/Baltimore region ..... not Chicago. Houston is going to pass its city proper. DC/Baltimore whole region stands the much better chance at passing Chicagoland..... not Philly's region.
But then. Why are we even taking about Philly as if it is a Philly region vs Chicagoland thread in growth.
A CSA is actually a real thing, defined by our government. It generally defines combined metro areas that share commuting patterns, a social and cultural similarity, and in most cases, the same media, especially with radio/tv.
I see a lot of posters here that don't believe in them, but it doesn't matter, as they exist.
That said, I would tend to look at MSA's as a more exact population of a city and its suburbs, but a CSA does provide a bigger picture and is helpful for transportation planning, media decisions, and a general feel of a mass population within a given area.
I think Chicago is mighty and great, definitely more urban than all the above. However I think it is destined to completely drop out of the 3rd spot in each of the three MSA, CSA, and city proper.
Dallas will pass it in 25 years by MSA, no question. Houston by city in 5 years most likely, and CSA we might as well chalk up as pretty much done already.
Yea I think the two MSA's will stay separate for a while, and should stay separate.
25 years is more than enough time for MSA trajectories to change. I’m not saying it’s impossible for Chicago to lose its third place ranking—only that projections that far out can start faltering a bit.
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25 years is more than enough time for MSA trajectories to change. I’m not saying it’s impossible for Chicago to lose its third place ranking—only that projections that far out can start faltering a bit.
Dallas is adding 140,000 people a year, with 0 slow down in sight. Even with a slow down to something drastic like 80,000-90,000/ year a 50-60k difference from where it's at, it would breeze past Chicago's negative growth in population in a couple decades. 25 years out is not that far out when your Dallas and add 1.3 million people a decade for the past 3 decades, it will pass Chicago unless Chicago adds Milwaukee to its MSA. Even when Chicago's MSA begins to pick population growth back up, and I believe it will, it will not get back to adding 80,000-90,000/yr.
Dallas is adding 140,000 people a year, with 0 slow down in sight. Even with a slow down to something drastic like 80,000-90,000/ year a 50-60k difference from where it's at, it would breeze past Chicago's negative growth in population in a couple decades. 25 years out is not that far out when your Dallas and add 1.3 million people a decade for the past 3 decades, it will pass Chicago unless Chicago adds Milwaukee to its MSA. Even when Chicago's MSA begins to pick population growth back up, and I believe it will, it will not get back to adding 80,000-90,000/yr.
People on CD are chomping at the bit to beat Chicago, it seems. Even if it happens, whatever city it is, won't equal the city that Chicago is. It's kind of funny, in a way. Things happen, and lots can change. Chicago is adding a different group of people, than the ones moving south. And, honestly, who needs to add 80 to 90 k people per year?? Bigger is not always better. AND, if we're talking 25 years down the road, Chicago and Milwaukee will, most likely, be merged, in some way.
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You know that as not stupid. Just the only comeback you could make and they took your bait. 
Why are we even taking about Philly as if it is a Philly region vs Chicagoland thread in growth. 
