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Just going by the original premise of this thread:
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Fastest Growing
Tallest
Most Magnificent ❤️
Fastest Growing - Toronto without a doubt, as shown by U/C and pipeline stats, corroborated by annual population growth of 100,000+ net new migration into the GTA and the largest employment center in Canada.
Tallest - Chicago for sure, and will be for the near future unless Toronto manages to get all 6 of its supertalls built in the next 5 years (2 are most likely, but the other 4 are still in planning stages)
Most Magnificent - I think we all know the answer to this: Chicago without a doubt. Both in the layout of the skyline but also the architecture of individual buildings. Some of the buildings - such as John Hancock Tower - are pretty much pretty much pioneers in the field of structuring engineering, and mandatory study in civil engineering and architecture classes.
When you're doing massing of a skyline for the purpose of scale comparisons, the red tower and the white tower are taller and larger than the two Chicago towers:
You can call them supertalls, you can call them manitopiaatalls, but they are still smaller than the red tower and the white tower.
So when you claim Chicago's skyline is bigger because buildings like those are taller due to the pointy sticks on their roofs, you are being misleading by arguing semantics and definitions.
With your analogy it's like a 5'5 man with a 7 inch hairdoo.
I'm not "arguing" anything. I'm stating that under the official definition, Chicago has 7 supertalls and Toronto has 0. It's a statement of fact not open to discussion. And if you have semantic/definitional issues with that, take it up with CTBUH.
You seem to be deeply troubled by this reality and it's not healthy.
And I strongly recommend everyone look at Scotia Plaza on Google Images. The building is incredibly thin. Yet Differential posts a render that makes like look the Metlife! Ha!
I'm not "arguing" anything. I'm stating that under the official definition, Chicago has 7 supertalls and Toronto has 0. It's a statement of fact not open to discussion. And if you have semantic/definitional issues with that, take it up with CTBUH.
You seem to be deeply troubled by this reality and it's not healthy.
And I strongly recommend everyone look at Scotia Plaza on Google Images. The building is incredibly thin. Yet Differential posts a render that makes like look the Metlife! Ha!
Yes I know you love official definitions because it lets you mislead people to support your argument.
The only troubling fact is at least two of Toronto’s buildings not counting the CN tower are taller than Chicago’s supertalls.
The render is from skyscraperpage, I have no control over it.
***** I think it's best to be over this déjà vu argument like years past Toronto vs Chicago threads.
I don't mind them. But you know what can happen if they go for too long.... At least we are not in the C-D era of mass banning of the past. Finally though, GeneralUS and the CvC is increasing again.
Still the definition of height that reaches super-talls is a standard. I hope so. So until you hit mega-tall. It stands as counts.
In a world that mega-tall are getting thrown up. Again, the CN(N) Tower. Still I see UNLIKELY to be surpassed in Toronto. But Chicago has no such barrier IMO. As we all should know? If not for the 07 08 Crash. Chicago would HAVE A MEGA-TALL. IT WAS under construction then and the Crash killed it.
The only two cites you can get these Arguments on high-rise+ counts? Is between Miami, Toronto and Chicago. But not sure on Mexico city .... still in NA.
Yes I know you love official definitions because it lets you mislead people to support your argument.
The only troubling fact is at least two of Toronto’s buildings not counting the CN tower are taller than Chicago’s supertalls.
The render is from skyscraperpage, I have no control over it.
I think you're missing another "two of" there
The only troubling fact is at least two of Toronto’s buildings not counting the CN tower are taller than two of Chicago’s supertalls.
I see what you're getting at, but it leaves four other supertalls in Chicago that are taller (well, five since Vista is topped out). Chicago has the taller skyscrapers, that's pretty straightforward. However, it seems like you're going by roof height, and if you're doing that, then this guy is now taller than Scotia Plaza, right? A roof height ranking will still be top-heavy towards Chicago.
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There is also an inherent pro-USA/anti-Canada bias on this forum, to the point where if it was Cincinnati vs Toronto, the majority would probably instinctively vote Cincinnati
I totally disagree. There is no way I would vote for any just any U.S. city over Toronto, probably very few. But to me the Toronto skyline just isn't very pretty, and the Chicago skyline from places like the Planetarium, Navy Pier and the Hancock is breathtaking.
I doubt any honest American would pick Cincy over Toronto, just as I would hope any honest Canadian would not choose Toronto over Chicago. But these days it is hard to find an honest subjective American on any subject, so who knows...……...
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I totally disagree. There is no way I would vote for any just any U.S. city over Toronto, probably very few. But to me the Toronto skyline just isn't very pretty, and the Chicago skyline from places like the Planetarium, Navy Pier and the Hancock is breathtaking.
I doubt any honest American would pick Cincy over Toronto, just as I would hope any honest Canadian would not choose Toronto over Chicago. But these days it is hard to find an honest subjective American on any subject, so who knows...……...
Again, you should have been here for some of the other ridiculous threads that compared Toronto to US cities. I remember one where people voted en masse for Detroit over Toronto, I kid you not
Edit, I see you've been a long time member, I'm sure you remember some of the threads I speak of
The only troubling fact is at least two of Toronto’s buildings not counting the CN tower are taller than two of Chicago’s supertalls.
I see what you're getting at, but it leaves four other supertalls in Chicago that are taller (well, five since Vista is topped out). Chicago has the taller skyscrapers, that's pretty straightforward.
I’m not arguing that, but the difference in height is not as big as he is making it out to be, outside of a few buildings the rest of the two large skylines are surprisingly comparable in height, with Toronto having more buildings overall.
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At least we are not in the C-D era of mass banning of the past. Finally though, GeneralUS and the CvC is increasing again. 
