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View Poll Results: Which state is best overall in the 2020's
Virginia 110 62.50%
Georgia 66 37.50%
Voters: 176. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-24-2019, 01:38 PM
 
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I wouldn't classify Virginia as "admirable", at least not as a former Navy sailor who spent a few months (too long) in Norfolk.
I find it admirable. It's definitely one of the best-run states in the country and offers a good standard of living for most lifestyles.
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Old 12-24-2019, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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I find it admirable. It's definitely one of the best-run states in the country and offers a good standard of living for most lifestyles.
Yep. With a blackface wearing Governor. Had that been that been Brian P. Kemp, folks from California to New York would have been talking down on Georgia and how that’s the way of life down South. But buddy boy up yonder got through it relatively unscathed. Just like folks on this board don’t bring it up (or that Charlottesville Rally) against Virginia. But had those situations been in Georgia...

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Merry Christmas.
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Old 12-24-2019, 02:03 PM
 
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I don’t think anyone has implied that GA was backwards.
VA tourism is Virginia Beach, Williamsburg/ Jamestown (Busch Gardens) and Northern Virginia ( of course there are popular sites across the commonwealth like Natural Bridge, Monticello, Fredericksburg, Roanoke, Bristol, Richmond, Kong’s Dominion...)

Norfolk would not be Augusta’s Virginia peer (unless you are separating it from the rest of Hampton Roads). The Norfolk metro area has a population of 1.8 million people.
We don’t have an Augusta size metro in Virginia. After the big three metros, the biggest metro is Roanoke at 300k. Lynchburg is around 260k, Charlottesville 220k. Winchester, Blacksburg, Harrisonburg, Staunton, Fredericksburg and Bristol are all around 100-150k. Balanced.
Ive been to Bristol and its nothing compared to Augusta. Fredricksburg seems like a good fit.Very similar feel and history(Civil War munitions and manufacturing).

Someone mentioned honey boo boo and Macon as if VA doesnt have this sort of element and some have said things like "its not even close".This is not California vs Georgia
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Old 12-24-2019, 02:05 PM
 
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Yep. With a blackface wearing Governor. Had that been that been Brian P. Kemp, folks from California to New York would have been talking down on Georgia and how that’s the way of life down South. But buddy boy up yonder got through it relatively unscathed. Just like folks on this board don’t bring it up (or that Charlottesville Rally) against Virginia. But had those situations been in Georgia...

*steps off soapbox*

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People talked about CVille and the rally for quite awhile on this board. Sounds more like you're playing the victim card on why GA is losing and saying it's only because of the deep south bias.... in actuality when it comes to quality of living measurements VA in general ranks much higher then GA. Facts might play a factor in VA winning this poll not because one is more Southern then another.
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Old 12-24-2019, 02:10 PM
 
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Ive been to Bristol and its nothing compared to Augusta. Fredricksburg seems like a good fit.Very similar feel and history(Civil War munitions and manufacturing).

Someone mentioned honey boo boo and Macon as if VA doesnt have this sort of element and some have said things like "its not even close".This is not California vs Georgia
I dont see where someone mentioned anything about honey boo boo and Macon....
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Old 12-24-2019, 02:18 PM
 
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Yep. With a blackface wearing Governor. Had that been that been Brian P. Kemp, folks from California to New York would have been talking down on Georgia and how that’s the way of life down South. But buddy boy up yonder got through it relatively unscathed. Just like folks on this board don’t bring it up (or that Charlottesville Rally) against Virginia. But had those situations been in Georgia...

*steps off soapbox*

Merry Christmas.
Although VA is still the South and has these issues to deal with, it has historically been a little more progressive than the rest of the South and there isn't this huge ideological gap between the state and its largest cities where fights between the two can make the news. That's why such incidents don't have the same impact on the state's image like they do in Georgia. At least VA's conservative politicians haven't seemed hellbent on killing the goose that laid the golden egg to placate their rural conservative constituency. Lord knows Atlanta would be a lot further ahead if it had a state government like VA's in place instead of GA's, and that's going all the way back to like the 80s/90s.

While what Gov. Northam did was despicable, at least the Democrats in the state finally took a page out of the GOP's playbook and remained focused on the big picture to win.
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Old 12-24-2019, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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I dont see where someone mentioned anything about honey boo boo and Macon....

Then you clearly haven't read the entire thread.
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Old 12-24-2019, 02:33 PM
 
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Then you clearly haven't read the entire thread.
Maybe I missed it...
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Old 12-24-2019, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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Although VA is still the South and has these issues to deal with, it has historically been a little more progressive than the rest of the South and there isn't this huge ideological gap between the state and its largest cities where fights between the two can make the news. That's why such incidents don't have the same impact on the state's image like they do in Georgia. At least VA's conservative politicians haven't seemed hellbent on killing the goose that laid the golden egg to placate their rural conservative constituency. Lord knows Atlanta would be a lot further ahead if it had a state government like VA's in place instead of GA's, and that's going all the way back to like the 80s/90s.

This is a weird comment because most conservatives in Georgia live in the suburbs, not rural areas.

What does 'placate their rural conservative constituency' even mean.

The south flipped to GOP when it became more affluent and educated. The extremely poor urban areas are dominated by Democrats.
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Old 12-24-2019, 02:52 PM
 
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This is a weird comment because most conservatives in Georgia live in the suburbs, not rural areas.

The south flipped to GOP when it became more affluent and educated. The extremely poor urban areas are dominated by Democrats.
The extremely poor rural areas are dominated by Republicans and extremely wealthy urban areas are dominated by Democrats...... I'm not understanding what your point is.
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