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Having this matchup is fair for me since I normally will inherently choose the more liberal state as my preferred. In this situation, neither is liberal whatsoever.
That said, Birmingham does seem more cultural with what seems to be a stronger urban core and I believe a better culinary scene? I enjoyed my time in Mobile. Had fun bar hopping. Fairhope was really cute. I like that Alabama has beaches. It feels more connected to other places with Mobile being a short drive to Nola and Birmingham being close to Atlanta/Nashville.
Well, why focus simply on the more liberal area, when you enjoyed Mobile so much and Mobile is right-leaning?
Admit it, a place can be conservative and still be awesome.
Well, why focus simply on the more liberal area, when you enjoyed Mobile so much and Mobile is right-leaning?
Admit it, a place can be conservative and still be awesome.
Yes, but my personal preference of places especially of where to live is always going to be the more liberal option. In this situation, when it's between two conservative places, I can view as something more than their political atmosphere.
Alabama. Their tornado risk is lower than OK, there's more topographical variance, and it has a coastline.
Oklahoma actually has a surprisingly rugged landscape in much of the eastern part of the state, and certain areas further west as well.
However, Alabama's key population centers tend to be located closer to (or within) the more picturesque areas. Birmingham and Huntsville are easily more visually attractive than Oklahoma City ... but I wouldn't say the same for Montgomery vs. Tulsa.
Oklahoma actually has a surprisingly rugged landscape in much of the eastern part of the state, and certain areas further west as well.
However, Alabama's key population centers tend to be located closer to (or within) the more picturesque areas. Birmingham and Huntsville are easily more visually attractive than Oklahoma City ... but I wouldn't say the same for Montgomery vs. Tulsa.
Yeah, remember that Eastern Oklahoma is lush and mountainous--looks more like the Arkansas Ozarks than Western Oklahoma.
Now the real question is: Do you prefer the Ozarks and Ouachitas or the Southern Appalachians?
Haven't been to Mobile, but have been to Biloxi, and I prefer the scenery and weather there (was there during the summer) to OKC scenery/weather. Not that OKC is bad, but Biloxi is just even better. The Gulf Coast has the best scenery and weather, IMO, out of anywhere in the U.S. I've been to.
I have never spent any time in any of the big cities for either state, except Birmingham a few times. So with that said, I think I would prefer Alabama's trio of Birmingham, Huntsville and Mobile over OKC and Tulsa. These are the only cities that would matter to me overall. But again I have very little experience
I have never spent any time in any of the big cities for either state, except Birmingham a few times. So with that said, I think I would prefer Alabama's trio of Birmingham, Huntsville and Mobile over OKC and Tulsa. These are the only cities that would matter to me overall. But again I have very little experience
But Alabama has high risk of getting hard hit by hurricanes, especially Mobile. The risk of tornadoes there is already bad enough.
Poverty rate is lower in Oklahoma. Per capita income is somewhat higher in Oklahoma. Crime rate is somewhat lower in Oklahoma. Oklahoma City is growing much faster than Birmingham. Yet, interesting how some people value hilly forested scenery in the bigger cities of Alabama as more important to consider, along with the beaches.
Does northeast Alabama have a higher mountain than Mt. Scott in southwest Oklahoma, elevation 2,264 ft.? There are other contenders, such as the world's highest hill by Poteau, OK. It's 1,999 ft. about its base. Elevation is 2,385 ft. above sea level. Mountains don't start until 2000 ft. I've driven to the top of both mountains. I liked the Mt. Scott drive better, because the scenery wasn't blocked as much by trees.
Yes, but my personal preference of places especially of where to live is always going to be the more liberal option. In this situation, when it's between two conservative places, I can view as something more than their political atmosphere.
Not even the college towns of Oklahoma stand out as liberal. But they're not as conservative as rural Oklahoma. Cherokee County where Northeastern Oklahoma State University is approved of legalizing medical marijuana by a larger percentage than most other counties. By the way, Oklahoma is well ahead of Alabama when it comes to legalizing medical marijuana and has the most liberal legal medical marijuana program in the nation.
Justice reform in Oklahoma no longer puts people in prison for several years or more over possession of illegal drugs.
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This is a tough comparison. I like Oklahoma City better than Birmingham, but Huntsville and Mobile tip the scales in Alabama's favor for me. Alabama has the better location as well.
Not even the college towns of Oklahoma stand out as liberal. But they're not as conservative as rural Oklahoma. Cherokee County where Northeastern Oklahoma State University is approved of legalizing medical marijuana by a larger percentage than most other counties. By the way, Oklahoma is well ahead of Alabama when it comes to legalizing medical marijuana and has the most liberal legal medical marijuana program in the nation.
Justice reform in Oklahoma no longer puts people in prison for several years or more over possession of illegal drugs.
That's great news! Glad to see that changing. And I think we were all shocked at OKC getting a Dem rep in 2018!
Then on top of that, you have Huntsville. There's simply no economy in Oklahoma that can even touch Huntsville's boom.
Just what the heck do you mean? From 2010 to 2018 Huntsville metro did not add on population at a greater rate than Oklahoma City metro. Birmingham metro didn't outgrow Tulsa metro, either. I suspect Alabama has its hills and beaches going more for it than its economy.
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